Douglas Richardson
2003-11-26 09:01:12 UTC
Dear Newsgroup ~
There is a fascinating article in the French language found in the
source, Bibliothèque de l'École des Chartes, 3rd ser. 3 (1852): 2352,
which article is entitled "Notice sur Robert de Fiennes, connétable de
France (1320-1384)." This source can be found on the gallica website
at the following web address:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/
Newsgroup members who descend from Jacquette de Luxembourg, wife of
Richard Wydeville, Earl Rivers, will doubtless find the article of
great interest, as Jacquette descends from Jeanne de Fiennes, wife of
Jean de Châtillon, which Jeanne was a sister of Robert de Fiennes.
In footnote 2 on page 40, the author includes a record dated 1360, in
which Robert de Fiennes, is styled "our cousin" [nostre cousin] by
King Jean II of France. Reviewing their respective ancestries, I find
Robert de Fiennes and King Jean II were related in 5th and 5th degrees
of kindred (that is, 4th cousins) by common descent from Alphonso
VIII, King of Castile (died 1214):
Alphonso VIII, King of Castile
__________________/_______________
/ /
Blanche of Castile Berengere of Castile
=King Louis VIII of France =Jean de Brienne, King
/ of Jerusalem
/ /
King Louis IX of France Jean de Brienne
/ /
Agnes of France Blanche de Brienne
= Robert II, Duke of Burgundy = Guillaume de Fiennes
/ /
Jeanne of Burgundy Jean de Fiennes
= King Philippe VI of France /
/ /
King Jean II of France Robert de Fiennes, Constable
of France
Robert de Fiennes and King Jean II also share a common descent from
Robert II, Count of Dreux (died 1218). This kinship is also 5th and
5th degrees.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: ***@msn.com
There is a fascinating article in the French language found in the
source, Bibliothèque de l'École des Chartes, 3rd ser. 3 (1852): 2352,
which article is entitled "Notice sur Robert de Fiennes, connétable de
France (1320-1384)." This source can be found on the gallica website
at the following web address:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/
Newsgroup members who descend from Jacquette de Luxembourg, wife of
Richard Wydeville, Earl Rivers, will doubtless find the article of
great interest, as Jacquette descends from Jeanne de Fiennes, wife of
Jean de Châtillon, which Jeanne was a sister of Robert de Fiennes.
In footnote 2 on page 40, the author includes a record dated 1360, in
which Robert de Fiennes, is styled "our cousin" [nostre cousin] by
King Jean II of France. Reviewing their respective ancestries, I find
Robert de Fiennes and King Jean II were related in 5th and 5th degrees
of kindred (that is, 4th cousins) by common descent from Alphonso
VIII, King of Castile (died 1214):
Alphonso VIII, King of Castile
__________________/_______________
/ /
Blanche of Castile Berengere of Castile
=King Louis VIII of France =Jean de Brienne, King
/ of Jerusalem
/ /
King Louis IX of France Jean de Brienne
/ /
Agnes of France Blanche de Brienne
= Robert II, Duke of Burgundy = Guillaume de Fiennes
/ /
Jeanne of Burgundy Jean de Fiennes
= King Philippe VI of France /
/ /
King Jean II of France Robert de Fiennes, Constable
of France
Robert de Fiennes and King Jean II also share a common descent from
Robert II, Count of Dreux (died 1218). This kinship is also 5th and
5th degrees.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: ***@msn.com