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Sir John de Strickley/ColdCase
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Steamager
2010-08-10 15:48:45 UTC
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Ref. the "Cold Case" reshown last night concerning 'Sir John de
Strickley' my old Atlas of Great Britain has no Strickley (indeed
there are only four places beginning with 'stri-' mentioned).
GoogleEarth however found "Strickley, Old Hutton, Kendal" a farmstead
nor much more than a day's horseride to the Scottish border - so did
Sir John take his name from there despite his Southern upbringing? Or
was there a mis-spelling on the manifest?
Ian Goddard
2010-08-10 16:26:50 UTC
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Post by Steamager
Ref. the "Cold Case" reshown last night concerning 'Sir John de
Strickley' my old Atlas of Great Britain has no Strickley (indeed
there are only four places beginning with 'stri-' mentioned).
GoogleEarth however found "Strickley, Old Hutton, Kendal" a farmstead
nor much more than a day's horseride to the Scottish border - so did
Sir John take his name from there despite his Southern upbringing? Or
was there a mis-spelling on the manifest?
I don't know what your "Cold Case" is which doesn't help answer your
specific question.

www.streetmap.co.uk also finds that as its only Strickley. Streetmap,
which reproduces the Ordnance Survey maps is always a good source for
searching for British place names although it's very picky about spelling.

However the 1881 surname distribution finds Strickley with a very
limited distribution:
http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/Map.aspx?name=STRICKLEY&year=1881&altyear=1998&country=GB&type=name

This suggests to me that the name might have originated in the midlands
with possibly a separate origin near Portsmouth. As these are heavily
built-up areas it's possible that a Strickley could have existed but
been expunged by later changes.

It's surprising how localised surnames names can remain in 1881 with
respect to their eponymous places of origin. For instance Armitage,
Broadhead, Coldwell, Hepworth, Hinchliffe and Littlewood are all
medieval place names within a few miles of Huddersfield which have given
rise to surnames and in all cases the surnames were most common in the
Huddersfield post-code area.
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Matt Tompkins
2010-08-10 17:10:33 UTC
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Post by Ian Goddard
Post by Steamager
Ref. the "Cold Case" reshown last night concerning 'Sir John de
Strickley' my old Atlas of Great Britain has no Strickley (indeed
there are only four places beginning with 'stri-' mentioned).
GoogleEarth however found "Strickley, Old Hutton, Kendal" a farmstead
nor much more than a day's horseride to the Scottish border - so did
Sir John take his name from there despite his Southern upbringing? Or
was there a mis-spelling on the manifest?
I don't know what your "Cold Case" is which doesn't help answer your
specific question.
www.streetmap.co.ukalso finds that as its only Strickley.  Streetmap,
which reproduces the Ordnance Survey maps is always a good source for
searching for British place names although it's very picky about spelling.
However the 1881 surname distribution finds Strickley with a very
limited distribution:http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/Map.aspx?name=STRICKLEY&year=188...
This suggests to me that the name might have originated in the midlands
with possibly a separate origin near Portsmouth.  As these are heavily
built-up areas it's possible that a Strickley could have existed but
been expunged by later changes.
The 1881 concentration in the Walsall, Dudley and Birmingham areas
suggests that the surname derives from Stirchley in eastern
Shropshire. This was originally Stirkley, and in the 12th-14th
centuries, when it was changing to Stirchley, sometimes appeared in
records in a metathesised form, as Strichley. It may also have taken
the form Strickley, and have given rise to the surname. It is
interesting that the 1881 census seems to contain no other surnames
derived from this parish - there are no Stirchleys or Strichleys - and
it would be odd for it to have left no trace in the surname stock.

Matt Tompkins

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