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Some further refs. to Rev. John Heart & family
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(1) Wariston's Diary from 1656, p. 39, mentions: "I thought it observable that M. J. Hart h[e]ard the Lord Henry Cromwell saye that the President [Broghill] had written to Ingland and Irland that he had drawen over the pryme ministerye of Scotland to the present government ..."


http://digital.nls.uk/scottish-history-society-publications/browse/archive/126777435


[Find previous posting showing that Rev. John Heart/Hart had a meeting with Henry Cromwell, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, at Dublin, late 1650s.]


(2) _Register of Consultations_, 2:154, the Rev. James Sharpe writes: "that you are much wanting to your cause who doe not take care of what stamp they are who are sent from Scotland to be ministers in Ireland; he hears the most of the Scottish ministers there are Remonstrators, amongst whom M. Hart is a leading man ..."


http://digital.nls.uk/scottish-history-society-publications/browse/archive/126728883

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Additionally, Jan's transcription of the 1757 will of Katherine (Craighead) Homes's brother, Samuel Craighead, merchant of London, shows a certain interesting bequest: "I give to my Niece Martha Cottrole one hundred poundes and to each of her Sons Charles and Joh. Cottrole one hundred pounds."


http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm

It seems quite likely this niece is Martha [nee Orr] of Londonderry, Ireland, wife of Colonel John Cottrell, who is stated to have had an eldest son Charles and second son John, the same order as they were named in the Samual Craighead will, above:


https://books.google.com/books?id=eSwwAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA22&dq=%22martha+orr%22+cottrell&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjfpYKLsYnVAhVFQCYKHaNWCrg4ChDoAQgrMAE#v=onepage&q=%22martha%20orr%22%20cottrell&f=false


Notice that John Cottrell's mother was descended from Lords Dacre and North, and that he also had an ancestor who had served as steward of the household to the Queen of Bohemia (ie., Princess Elizabeth, the daughter of James I & VI).
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2018-01-17 19:20:47 UTC
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I believe Sir Jack Boles, former head of the National Trust (UK) in the 1970s/80s, would be a descendant of Gen. John Cottrell and his wife Martha through the Lefroy, Crofton, and Boles families.

http://www.jjhc.info/boleshilda1943.htm

http://www.jjhc.info/croftonduke1917.htm

http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio.php?id_nbr=5650
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I believe Sir Jack Boles, former head of the National Trust (UK) in the 1970s/80s, would be a descendant of Gen. John Cottrell and his wife Martha through the Lefroy, Crofton, and Boles families.
http://www.jjhc.info/boleshilda1943.htm
http://www.jjhc.info/croftonduke1917.htm
http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio.php?id_nbr=5650
Another Cottrell (and Orr, Craighead, etc.) descendant would be the British painter Anthony Eyton, born 1923:

http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/anthony-eyton-1075

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Eyton

Martha Orr = Col. [?Gen.] John Cottrell
Rev. Charles Jeffreys Cottrell = Fanny Smith
Sophia Cottrell = John H. G. Lefroy of Ewshott House, Hampshire
Isabella Elizabeth Lefroy = Rev. Charles Frederick Seymour
Agnes Isabella Seymour = Philip Eyton
Capt. John Seymour Eyton = Phyllis Tyser
Anthony Eyton

https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=janeausten&id=I2125
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I believe Sir Jack Boles, former head of the National Trust (UK) in the 1970s/80s, would be a descendant of Gen. John Cottrell and his wife Martha through the Lefroy, Crofton, and Boles families.
http://www.jjhc.info/boleshilda1943.htm
http://www.jjhc.info/croftonduke1917.htm
http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio.php?id_nbr=5650
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/anthony-eyton-1075
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Eyton
Martha Orr = Col. [?Gen.] John Cottrell
Rev. Charles Jeffreys Cottrell = Fanny Smith
Sophia Cottrell = John H. G. Lefroy of Ewshott House, Hampshire
Isabella Elizabeth Lefroy = Rev. Charles Frederick Seymour
Agnes Isabella Seymour = Philip Eyton
Capt. John Seymour Eyton = Phyllis Tyser
Anthony Eyton
https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=janeausten&id=I2125
Anthony Eyton may be the uncle of David G.P. Eyton, Chief Technology Officer of BP:

https://vimeo.com/234819998

G3. Philip Eyton, Lt.Col., * 1847, + 1907, Md. 1888, Agnes Isabella Seymour, + 1950, d. of Rev. C. F. Seymour, Rector of Winchfield, Hampshire.

H1. John Seymour Eyton, of Silchester, Berkshire, * 1890, +, Md.1) 1920, Phyllis Annie Tyser, + 1929, d. of Capt. Hugh Tyser, of Marden, Kent.

I1. Anthony John Plowden Eyton, * 1923, Md. 1960, Frances Mary Capell, d. of James Alwyn Capell, of Kingston, Ontario, Canada.
J1. Jane Elizabeth Eyton, * 1961.
J2. Claire Alice Eyton, * 1963.
J3. Sarah Mary Eyton, * 1964.
Md.2) 1931, Isabel Adams, d. of Rev. Henry Theophilus Adams, of Silchester, Berkshire.
I2. Robert Henry Eyton, Maj., * 1932, Md. 1960, Jean Mary Blake, d. of Geoffrey D. Blake, of Leatherhead, Surrey.
J1. David Geoffrey Philip Eyton, * 1961.
J2. Sally Mary Anne Eyton, * 1963.
I3. Anne Isabel May Eyton, * 1935, + 1958, Md. 1956, James Ivor Symes, of Widecombe-in-the-Moor, Devon, s. of Ivor T. J. Symes, of Basingstoke, Hampshire.

H2. Robert William Eyton, Lt., * 1895, + 1918 killed in action at Flary.

H3. Muriel Rose Eyton, * 1893, + 1972.

H4. Phyllis Winifred Eyton, of Crondall, Hampshire, * 1894, +, Md.1) 1925, Maj. Walter Macandrew Crockett, Issue; Md.2) 1939, Balcombe Langridge Seton-Winton, + 1957.

http://www.william1.co.uk/r61.htm
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1629, 1st Feb. Bishop present. "Quhilk day David Heart, writter, having asked the consent of my L. Bishop, minister and elders of the session, that he might have a convenient place wtin the Cathedral Kirk of S. Magnus to big a seate for himselfe, his wife and his airs, Quhairunto they all in one voice most willinglie condiscend, and ordains the said seat to be bigged upon the west side of the pillar where the pulpit and the Reader's deasse stand, being direct over against the goodman of Essinquoy's seat."

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044081262545&view=1up&seq=120&skin=2021&q1=heart
Johnny Brananas
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"Remember David Hart and wret your mynd to him ..." [ca. 1630]

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b758502&view=1up&seq=285&skin=2021&q1=%22david%20hart%22
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https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015014521010&view=1up&seq=180&skin=2021&q1=%22david%20hart%22
Johnny Brananas
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Snippet views on Google Books show a little potted Fasti-style biography of the Rev. John Heart/ Hart of Taughboyne, Ireland, in _The Genealogists' Magazine_, apparently from vol. 7 (1935). One of the statements made is: "In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart," [who was then serving at Hamilton near Glasgow]. He was installed at Taughboyne / Monreagh in Ireland the following year.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=hart+taughboine&dq=hart+taughboine&printsec=frontcover

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=taughboyne
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2021-12-05 17:46:22 UTC
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Snippet views on Google Books show a little potted Fasti-style biography of the Rev. John Heart/ Hart of Taughboyne, Ireland, in _The Genealogists' Magazine_, apparently from vol. 7 (1935). One of the statements made is: "In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart," [who was then serving at Hamilton near Glasgow]. He was installed at Taughboyne / Monreagh in Ireland the following year.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=hart+taughboine&dq=hart+taughboine&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=taughboyne
Here's the whole text, from "Fasti of the Irish Presbyterian Church", "by the late Rev. James McConnell, B.A., revised by the late Rev. S. G. McConnell, B.A." In The Genealogists' Magazine volume 7, no. 11, September 1937, page 586. The John Hart bio is on page 589.

HART, JOHN: b. Scotland; educ. St. Andrews; M.A. (St. And.) 1637; ord. at Crail, 22 March 1642/3; mar. 1644, Agnes Baxter; res. 1646; inst. Dunino, 30 Dec. 1646; res. 1650; inst. Dunkeld, 1650; joined the Protesters 1651, and was dep. 1652; inst. Hamilton (2nd charge), 23 Jan. 1653. In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart. Inst. Taughboyne (Monreagh) 1656. Recd. £150 a year as from 29 Sept. last, from the Protectorate on the petition of the inhabitants and report of Drs. Winter and Harrison, and Mr. Mather as to his piety, etc., and that he had been there near half a year and had a great charge of children (25 March 1656). Dep. for non-conformity, 1661, but continued to minister.

On a visit to Dublin in the winter of 1662/3 some of those engaged in Blood's Plot applied to Mr. Hart for his concurrence. When examined later as to his complicity he incautiously dropped a word that brought trouble to Mr. Thos. Boyd, M.P. for Bangor. In vindicating himself he said that when the plot was revealed to him he expressed his abhorrence, as Mr. Boyd in Dublin knew. This led to Mr. Boyd's arrest and subsequent expulsion from the House of Commons. Hart seems to have been liberated on bail to appear when called upon. Excommunicated and imprisoned in Lifford, 1664-70, for disobeying a summons, issued by Robt. Leslie, Bp. of Raphoe, to appear before his court. Fined 20 and imprisoned 8 months for his connexion with a Fast (17 Feb. 1681), appointed by Laggan Presby.

Died 8 Jan. 1687, aged 70; int. at Taughboyne.

[Reff.: Adair, Narrative: A/26, f. 193 (Seymour Transcripts): Evangl. Witness, 1868, p. 17: Scott, Fasti (o.c.), ii, 421, 760, 786; (n.e.) iii, 262; vii, 530: Mins. of Laggan Meeting: Reid, ii, 224, 304: Carte Papers, 32, p. 412.]
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Snippet views on Google Books show a little potted Fasti-style biography of the Rev. John Heart/ Hart of Taughboyne, Ireland, in _The Genealogists' Magazine_, apparently from vol. 7 (1935). One of the statements made is: "In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart," [who was then serving at Hamilton near Glasgow]. He was installed at Taughboyne / Monreagh in Ireland the following year.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=hart+taughboine&dq=hart+taughboine&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=taughboyne
Here's the whole text, from "Fasti of the Irish Presbyterian Church", "by the late Rev. James McConnell, B.A., revised by the late Rev. S. G. McConnell, B.A." In The Genealogists' Magazine volume 7, no. 11, September 1937, page 586. The John Hart bio is on page 589.
HART, JOHN: b. Scotland; educ. St. Andrews; M.A. (St. And.) 1637; ord. at Crail, 22 March 1642/3; mar. 1644, Agnes Baxter; res. 1646; inst. Dunino, 30 Dec. 1646; res. 1650; inst. Dunkeld, 1650; joined the Protesters 1651, and was dep. 1652; inst. Hamilton (2nd charge), 23 Jan. 1653. In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart. Inst. Taughboyne (Monreagh) 1656. Recd. £150 a year as from 29 Sept. last, from the Protectorate on the petition of the inhabitants and report of Drs. Winter and Harrison, and Mr. Mather as to his piety, etc., and that he had been there near half a year and had a great charge of children (25 March 1656). Dep. for non-conformity, 1661, but continued to minister.
On a visit to Dublin in the winter of 1662/3 some of those engaged in Blood's Plot applied to Mr. Hart for his concurrence. When examined later as to his complicity he incautiously dropped a word that brought trouble to Mr. Thos. Boyd, M.P. for Bangor. In vindicating himself he said that when the plot was revealed to him he expressed his abhorrence, as Mr. Boyd in Dublin knew. This led to Mr. Boyd's arrest and subsequent expulsion from the House of Commons. Hart seems to have been liberated on bail to appear when called upon. Excommunicated and imprisoned in Lifford, 1664-70, for disobeying a summons, issued by Robt. Leslie, Bp. of Raphoe, to appear before his court. Fined 20 and imprisoned 8 months for his connexion with a Fast (17 Feb. 1681), appointed by Laggan Presby.
Died 8 Jan. 1687, aged 70; int. at Taughboyne.
[Reff.: Adair, Narrative: A/26, f. 193 (Seymour Transcripts): Evangl. Witness, 1868, p. 17: Scott, Fasti (o.c.), ii, 421, 760, 786; (n.e.) iii, 262; vii, 530: Mins. of Laggan Meeting: Reid, ii, 224, 304: Carte Papers, 32, p. 412.]
I don't see any mention of Thomas Boyd, burgess for Bangor, in the HOP series for 1660-90.

https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/research/members/1660-1690/B

Or was there an Irish parliament at the time?
John Higgins
2021-12-06 17:40:19 UTC
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Snippet views on Google Books show a little potted Fasti-style biography of the Rev. John Heart/ Hart of Taughboyne, Ireland, in _The Genealogists' Magazine_, apparently from vol. 7 (1935). One of the statements made is: "In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart," [who was then serving at Hamilton near Glasgow]. He was installed at Taughboyne / Monreagh in Ireland the following year.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=hart+taughboine&dq=hart+taughboine&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=taughboyne
Here's the whole text, from "Fasti of the Irish Presbyterian Church", "by the late Rev. James McConnell, B.A., revised by the late Rev. S. G. McConnell, B.A." In The Genealogists' Magazine volume 7, no. 11, September 1937, page 586. The John Hart bio is on page 589.
HART, JOHN: b. Scotland; educ. St. Andrews; M.A. (St. And.) 1637; ord. at Crail, 22 March 1642/3; mar. 1644, Agnes Baxter; res. 1646; inst. Dunino, 30 Dec. 1646; res. 1650; inst. Dunkeld, 1650; joined the Protesters 1651, and was dep. 1652; inst. Hamilton (2nd charge), 23 Jan. 1653. In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart. Inst. Taughboyne (Monreagh) 1656. Recd. £150 a year as from 29 Sept. last, from the Protectorate on the petition of the inhabitants and report of Drs. Winter and Harrison, and Mr. Mather as to his piety, etc., and that he had been there near half a year and had a great charge of children (25 March 1656). Dep. for non-conformity, 1661, but continued to minister.
On a visit to Dublin in the winter of 1662/3 some of those engaged in Blood's Plot applied to Mr. Hart for his concurrence. When examined later as to his complicity he incautiously dropped a word that brought trouble to Mr. Thos. Boyd, M.P. for Bangor. In vindicating himself he said that when the plot was revealed to him he expressed his abhorrence, as Mr. Boyd in Dublin knew. This led to Mr. Boyd's arrest and subsequent expulsion from the House of Commons. Hart seems to have been liberated on bail to appear when called upon. Excommunicated and imprisoned in Lifford, 1664-70, for disobeying a summons, issued by Robt. Leslie, Bp. of Raphoe, to appear before his court. Fined 20 and imprisoned 8 months for his connexion with a Fast (17 Feb. 1681), appointed by Laggan Presby.
Died 8 Jan. 1687, aged 70; int. at Taughboyne.
[Reff.: Adair, Narrative: A/26, f. 193 (Seymour Transcripts): Evangl. Witness, 1868, p. 17: Scott, Fasti (o.c.), ii, 421, 760, 786; (n.e.) iii, 262; vii, 530: Mins. of Laggan Meeting: Reid, ii, 224, 304: Carte Papers, 32, p. 412.]
I don't see any mention of Thomas Boyd, burgess for Bangor, in the HOP series for 1660-90.
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/research/members/1660-1690/B
Or was there an Irish parliament at the time?
Yes, there was a parliament in Ireland at the time - although I've read that it met only sporadically during most of the Stuart era. It became a more established body, with more regular meetings, staring in 1692, after the Battle of the Boyne. The MPs from 1692 until the parliament was dissolved in 1800 are well documented in the excellent 6-volume series "History of the Irish Parliament 1692-1800", by Edith Mary Johnston-Liik (2002). I don't know if there is a similar comprehensive source for Irish parliaments prior to 1692. Maybe someone else will know...
Johnny Brananas
2021-12-06 17:58:30 UTC
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Snippet views on Google Books show a little potted Fasti-style biography of the Rev. John Heart/ Hart of Taughboyne, Ireland, in _The Genealogists' Magazine_, apparently from vol. 7 (1935). One of the statements made is: "In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart," [who was then serving at Hamilton near Glasgow]. He was installed at Taughboyne / Monreagh in Ireland the following year.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=hart+taughboine&dq=hart+taughboine&printsec=frontcover
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Genealogists_Magazine/2CM9AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=taughboyne
Here's the whole text, from "Fasti of the Irish Presbyterian Church", "by the late Rev. James McConnell, B.A., revised by the late Rev. S. G. McConnell, B.A." In The Genealogists' Magazine volume 7, no. 11, September 1937, page 586. The John Hart bio is on page 589.
HART, JOHN: b. Scotland; educ. St. Andrews; M.A. (St. And.) 1637; ord. at Crail, 22 March 1642/3; mar. 1644, Agnes Baxter; res. 1646; inst. Dunino, 30 Dec. 1646; res. 1650; inst. Dunkeld, 1650; joined the Protesters 1651, and was dep. 1652; inst. Hamilton (2nd charge), 23 Jan. 1653. In Oct. 1655, a Commissr. from Taughboyne appeared at the Syn. of Glasgow and Ayr with a call to Mr. Hart. Inst. Taughboyne (Monreagh) 1656. Recd. £150 a year as from 29 Sept. last, from the Protectorate on the petition of the inhabitants and report of Drs. Winter and Harrison, and Mr. Mather as to his piety, etc., and that he had been there near half a year and had a great charge of children (25 March 1656). Dep. for non-conformity, 1661, but continued to minister.
On a visit to Dublin in the winter of 1662/3 some of those engaged in Blood's Plot applied to Mr. Hart for his concurrence. When examined later as to his complicity he incautiously dropped a word that brought trouble to Mr. Thos. Boyd, M.P. for Bangor. In vindicating himself he said that when the plot was revealed to him he expressed his abhorrence, as Mr. Boyd in Dublin knew. This led to Mr. Boyd's arrest and subsequent expulsion from the House of Commons. Hart seems to have been liberated on bail to appear when called upon. Excommunicated and imprisoned in Lifford, 1664-70, for disobeying a summons, issued by Robt. Leslie, Bp. of Raphoe, to appear before his court. Fined 20 and imprisoned 8 months for his connexion with a Fast (17 Feb. 1681), appointed by Laggan Presby.
Died 8 Jan. 1687, aged 70; int. at Taughboyne.
[Reff.: Adair, Narrative: A/26, f. 193 (Seymour Transcripts): Evangl. Witness, 1868, p. 17: Scott, Fasti (o.c.), ii, 421, 760, 786; (n.e.) iii, 262; vii, 530: Mins. of Laggan Meeting: Reid, ii, 224, 304: Carte Papers, 32, p. 412.]
I don't see any mention of Thomas Boyd, burgess for Bangor, in the HOP series for 1660-90.
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/research/members/1660-1690/B
Or was there an Irish parliament at the time?
Yes, there was a parliament in Ireland at the time - although I've read that it met only sporadically during most of the Stuart era. It became a more established body, with more regular meetings, staring in 1692, after the Battle of the Boyne. The MPs from 1692 until the parliament was dissolved in 1800 are well documented in the excellent 6-volume series "History of the Irish Parliament 1692-1800", by Edith Mary Johnston-Liik (2002). I don't know if there is a similar comprehensive source for Irish parliaments prior to 1692. Maybe someone else will know...
Thanks. I vaguely recalled that the Johnston-Liik work covered a later period. Our copy has been checked out to a professor for over fifteen years now.
John Higgins
2021-12-06 18:10:47 UTC
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I don't see any mention of Thomas Boyd, burgess for Bangor, in the HOP series for 1660-90.
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/research/members/1660-1690/B
Or was there an Irish parliament at the time?
Yes, there was a parliament in Ireland at the time - although I've read that it met only sporadically during most of the Stuart era. It became a more established body, with more regular meetings, staring in 1692, after the Battle of the Boyne. The MPs from 1692 until the parliament was dissolved in 1800 are well documented in the excellent 6-volume series "History of the Irish Parliament 1692-1800", by Edith Mary Johnston-Liik (2002). I don't know if there is a similar comprehensive source for Irish parliaments prior to 1692. Maybe someone else will know...
Thanks. I vaguely recalled that the Johnston-Liik work covered a later period. Our copy has been checked out to a professor for over fifteen years now.
If you need an occasional look-up from the Johnson-Liik work, I can help. A number of years ago I purchased a set at a remainder-sale price - quite cheap. It's been very useful to have.
Johnny Brananas
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I don't see any mention of Thomas Boyd, burgess for Bangor, in the HOP series for 1660-90.
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/research/members/1660-1690/B
Or was there an Irish parliament at the time?
Yes, there was a parliament in Ireland at the time - although I've read that it met only sporadically during most of the Stuart era. It became a more established body, with more regular meetings, staring in 1692, after the Battle of the Boyne. The MPs from 1692 until the parliament was dissolved in 1800 are well documented in the excellent 6-volume series "History of the Irish Parliament 1692-1800", by Edith Mary Johnston-Liik (2002). I don't know if there is a similar comprehensive source for Irish parliaments prior to 1692. Maybe someone else will know...
Thanks. I vaguely recalled that the Johnston-Liik work covered a later period. Our copy has been checked out to a professor for over fifteen years now.
If you need an occasional look-up from the Johnson-Liik work, I can help. A number of years ago I purchased a set at a remainder-sale price - quite cheap. It's been very useful to have.
Thanks. (I remember thinking it looked helpful the one time I saw it.)
Jan Wolfe
2021-12-07 19:08:37 UTC
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Thanks for these additional sources for the life of John Heart.

The date of John Heart's death is stated in the memorial inscription on this grave stone (IAN 8 AN 1687).
https://books.google.com/books?id=MSjV_jvdzVIC&pg=PA55
https://archive.org/details/journalforyear81asso/page/34/mode/1up

Was the start of the new year January 1 or March 25 in this part of Ireland in 1687?
James VI had moved the start of the new year in Scotland to January 1 in 1600, but he did not make a similar change in England when he became James I of England in 1603.
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/record-guides/old-parish-registers/change-in-calendar

One might think that people who had come to Ireland from Scotland in the mid 1600s would be inclined to use the dating custom of Scotland in their new home.
Jan Wolfe
2021-12-11 02:56:50 UTC
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There is a Findagrave memorial for John Heart, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/92084723/john-hart. Jeffrey Homes has (I think recently) uploaded a photo of the gravestone, Loading Image....
The biographical notes in the Findagrave memorial include a somewhat old version of my web notes for John Heart and his wife Agnes Baxter with an old (nonworking) link. The link to my current notes is https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m12280x12920.htm. (I've sent the current link to the Findagrave contributor so that she will be able to correct the link.)
Jeff Homes
2022-02-10 19:15:33 UTC
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David Heart mentioned here on p.179, #523. I could use some help translating the latin.
https://archive.org/details/registrummagnisi08scot/page/178/mode/2up?q=holmes&view=theater
Johnny Brananas
2022-02-10 20:23:37 UTC
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David Heart mentioned here on p.179, #523. I could use some help translating the latin.
https://archive.org/details/registrummagnisi08scot/page/178/mode/2up?q=holmes&view=theater
Something like David Hairt [Heart], writer, inheriting land in Howgoland [Hugoland] and Ollaberry, Shetland, formerly of Andrew Mowatt, eldest son and heir of the late John Mowatt of Hugoland.
Johnny Brananas
2022-02-11 15:27:45 UTC
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David Heart mentioned here on p.179, #523. I could use some help translating the latin.
https://archive.org/details/registrummagnisi08scot/page/178/mode/2up?q=holmes&view=theater
Something like David Hairt [Heart], writer, inheriting land in Howgoland [Hugoland] and Ollaberry, Shetland, formerly of Andrew Mowatt, eldest son and heir of the late John Mowatt of Hugoland.
Well, not inheriting exactly. Another entry from March 1624 in a different source shows the lands, "which all formerly pertained to Andrew Mowat, eldest lawful son and heir of the deceased John Mowat of Howgoland, ... were apprised from him at the instance of the said David Hereot [sic] in a court of apprising ... for not entering as heir to his father therein."

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b757144&view=1up&seq=41&skin=2021&q1=%22hereot%20writer%22

Note the unusual spelling of David Heart's surname as Hereot.

I suppose since Andrew Mowatt somehow did not "enter" properly as the heir to his father, his brother-in-law David Heart/ Hereot (husband of Jean Mowatt) obtained a "Decreet of the Lords of Council and Session" against Andrew.
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At any rate, William Heart's wife Helen seems to have been a granddaughter of Sir John Hay "the Incendiary."
Some genealogical book reviewed in 1935 in _The Genealogists' Mag_ apparently contains the following: "The book contains four genealogical appendices, the descent of Hay on both sides from Sir William Hay of Locherworth who died in 1421, a pedigree of his [Sir John Hay's] first wife Marion Johnston for four generations, a pedigree of John Adamson, his son-in-law, for four generations and the descent of the author from Sir John Hay."

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=bks&ei=BKhfWue_I8bXzgLkmrrIAw&q=%22a+pedigree+of+John+Adamson%22&oq=%22a+pedigree+of+John+Adamson%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...14463.15888.0.16669.2.2.0.0.0.0.54.101.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.KIaA0F6VHo4

This could be worth checking for more information on William Heart's wife, Helen Adamson.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).

"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."

I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
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Rebecca Haninger
2023-09-30 19:11:25 UTC
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
Rebecca Haninger
2023-09-30 19:13:50 UTC
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
Rebecca Haninger
2023-09-30 19:29:41 UTC
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
Between various wills, I've determined the following:

James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
Children:
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson

Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
JBrand
2023-09-30 21:32:13 UTC
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.

"I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"

https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm

So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).

Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.

https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm

The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.
JBrand
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.
"I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"
https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm
So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).
Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.
https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm
The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.
"For an account of the younger branch of the Cottrell family we must revert to Sir Charles Lodowick Cottrell and his second wife, Miss Chute, who was the mother of three sons, John, William, and Stephen. The eldest son, John Cottrell was a Colonel in the Army; he married Miss Matilda [sic] Orr, an Irish lady, and settled at Hadley, Middlesex, and died 1746. ..."

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Account_of_Rousham_Oxfordshire/sWhbAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=orr
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.
"I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"
https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm
So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).
Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.
https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm
The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.
"For an account of the younger branch of the Cottrell family we must revert to Sir Charles Lodowick Cottrell and his second wife, Miss Chute, who was the mother of three sons, John, William, and Stephen. The eldest son, John Cottrell was a Colonel in the Army; he married Miss Matilda [sic] Orr, an Irish lady, and settled at Hadley, Middlesex, and died 1746. ..."
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Account_of_Rousham_Oxfordshire/sWhbAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=orr
"Cottrell Wm, Bishop of Ferns & Leighlin To Honorable Coll John Cottrele the Brother

[? Con for] admon granted 8 Day June 1765."

from Betham's Genealogical Abstracts Prerog Admons. (Int) C. 1740-1764
Johnny Brananas
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.
"I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"
https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm
So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).
Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.
https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm
The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.
"For an account of the younger branch of the Cottrell family we must revert to Sir Charles Lodowick Cottrell and his second wife, Miss Chute, who was the mother of three sons, John, William, and Stephen. The eldest son, John Cottrell was a Colonel in the Army; he married Miss Matilda [sic] Orr, an Irish lady, and settled at Hadley, Middlesex, and died 1746. ..."
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Account_of_Rousham_Oxfordshire/sWhbAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=orr
"Cottrell Wm, Bishop of Ferns & Leighlin To Honorable Coll John Cottrele the Brother
[? Con for] admon granted 8 Day June 1765."
from Betham's Genealogical Abstracts Prerog Admons. (Int) C. 1740-1764
Something must be wrong with this date (1765), or it must the granting of admon to another de bonis non (or whatever), as another source states Cottrell, Bishop of Ferns and Leighlin died in 1744 or 1747.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Miscellanea_Genealogica_Et_Heraldica_and/XQtBAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=cottrell+ferns+leighlin&pg=PA132&printsec=frontcover
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.

The following deeds are useful

1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720

1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720

1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
Johnny Brananas
2023-10-06 17:09:48 UTC
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
Johnny Brananas
2023-10-06 21:22:02 UTC
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
Rebecca Haninger
2023-10-19 23:03:05 UTC
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.

If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.

Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.

Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.

To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
Rebecca Haninger
2023-10-19 23:51:06 UTC
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My interest in the Craighead-Heart family comes from the possibility that my ancestor, Jane Dunlap (b. c. 1775), wife of James Cousar (d. by 1813) of Gills Creek in Lancaster District, SC, was a daughter of Samuel Dunlap (b. c. 1757) and Mary Craighead, daughter of Rev. Alexander Craighead and Jane Brown, granddaughter of Rev. Thomas Craighead and Margaret Wallace, and great-granddaughter of Rev. Robert Craighead and Agnes Heart.

A common error that appears all over the internet is that Mary Craighead married Samuel Dunlap (1715-1791), but that Samuel was the father of her husband.

After Mary Craighead's death, Samuel Dunlap (Jr.) seems to have married Lydia Anderson, daughter of Cornelius Anderson. He and several of his children moved to Tennessee. He is last recorded (as far as I know) in Mar 1836 in Haywood County, but had lived in Humphreys county before that. He had several children, but it isn't always clear which of his wives was the mother of which child, nor is it always clear which grandchild was born from which child.

If Jane Dunlap who m. James Cousar really was his daughter (which is not proven), then chronology would suggest her mother was Mary Craighead and that she was the eldest child. I also think his son Robert Dunlap (d. by 1836 in Humphreys County, leaving a widow Elizabeth) might have been by Mary Craighead. I am of the opinion that Anderson Dunlap (m. Mary), William Dunlap (m. Phoebe Hall), Allen Leroy Dunlap (m. Mary), Sarah Dunlap (m. Rev. James Forrest), and Samuel Dunlap III (m. first Jane Crawford, then Nancy Riggs) were Lydia Anderson's children, but I could be wrong about one or more of them.

James Cousar (d. by 1813) and his wife, Jane Dunlap, had four sons:

Robert Cousar (c. 1789-bef. 18 Dec 1811) married his cousin Nancy Ann Dunlap, daughter of Thomas Dunlap and Catherine Foster, and had one son, Robert H. Cousar (1806-1892). Nancy married secondly, _____ Crockett, and she and Robert H. Cousar moved to Fleming County, KY, where Robert married one Julia Ann and left issue.

Samuel Cousar (c. 1790-1854) married Margaret McElmoyle and had James E. Cousar (c. 1821-1882), John J. M. Cousar (b. c. 1824), and possibly Aminta Cousar (c. 1833-1885). James E. Cousar married Mary Jane Hemby. Aminta married John David Caskey (c. 1828-1899).

Archibald B. Cousar (b. 1791-1792, d. 1830-1840 in Tennessee) married one Elizabeth (b. c. 1797) who, after his death, married _____ Maddox. Their children seem to have included Samuel Franklin Cousar (b. c. 1820), Richard E. Cousar (b. c. 1824) who married one Lorinda (b. c. 1829), Archibald Dunlap Cousar (b. c. 1827) who married one Nancy Jane (b. c. 1837), Martha Cousar (b. c. 1832), Charles Cousar (b. c. 1835), and a son, dead by 1850, whose wife was Louisa (c. 1826-1850). There was perhaps a son named Matthew Cousar, as well. Mrs. Elizabeth Maddox and at least some of her Cousar children moved to Mississippi County, AR.

James D. Cousar, Jr. (bef. 1794-bef. 10 Dec 1825), married Bethia Hood (1788-1856), who later married Andrew Gamble. Her Cousar children were Ann Louisa Cousar (1811-1882) m. Hugh Montgomery (1805-1845); James H. Cousar (1812-1854) m. his cousin Nancy Cousar Kirk; Jane Narcissa Cousar (1814-1881) m1. (in 1838) William Blackstock, m2. James Hood; Allen H. Cousar (1816-1845); Richard Henry Cousar (1818-1903) m1. his cousin Susannah L. Dunlap, m2. Margaret Matilda Craig; and probably William K. Cousar (1820-1845).

I am descended from Richard Henry Cousar by his second wife Margaret Matilda Craig.

Robert Dunlap (b. 1776-1780, d. bef. 1836), who might have been a son of Mary Craighead, married Elizabeth H. I believe (but could be wrong in one or more of these cases) that his children included:

Samuel A. Dunlap (b. 1811-1820, d. bef. Oct 1840) m. Nancy Rushing
Rev. Robert Richard Dunlap (1818-1885) m1. Pamela Hubbard Parker, m2. Mary Louisa Williams
Salina Dunlap (b. c. 1826) m. David Rushing
James Madison Dunlap (1828-1886) m. Amanda Leona Parker
Jonathan H. Dunlap (or John H. Dunlap, b. c. 1834)
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
Jeff Homes
2023-10-20 21:57:02 UTC
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.

Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.

Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.

Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.

From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.

Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
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2023-10-21 02:03:03 UTC
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
An abstract of the 1693 will of Thomas Brown by Gertrude Thrift can be found on findmypast or at ancestry - and does state Mr William Homes. It reads:

Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.

Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]

Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
Okay, better proof about it being the minister.
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It sounds to me like Elizabeth Brown, sister of Hugh Brown, Merchant of Strabane, married James Hamilton, Merchant of Strabane (d. 1703), and had (among other children) Margery Hamilton, wife of Hugh Kyle, Merchant of Dublin (d. 1723), and Lilias Hamilton, wife of Thomas Wilson.
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
Okay, better proof about it being the minister.
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2023-10-22 05:19:49 UTC
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There are more Heart baptisms in Hamilton, Lanarkshire:

Janet Heart, 15 Aug 1655, daughter of John Heart.
Janet Heart, 20 May 1659, daughter of John Heart.

In neither of these records is the father described as "Mr". Plus, I think these occurred after Rev. John Heart went to Ireland. So, despite having children baptized in the same place, it's possible this is a different John.
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It sounds to me like Elizabeth Brown, sister of Hugh Brown, Merchant of Strabane, married James Hamilton, Merchant of Strabane (d. 1703), and had (among other children) Margery Hamilton, wife of Hugh Kyle, Merchant of Dublin (d. 1723), and Lilias Hamilton, wife of Thomas Wilson.
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
Okay, better proof about it being the minister.
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It sounds to me like Elizabeth Brown, sister of Hugh Brown, Merchant of Strabane, married James Hamilton, Merchant of Strabane (d. 1703), and had (among other children) Margery Hamilton, wife of Hugh Kyle, Merchant of Dublin (d. 1723), and Lilias Hamilton, wife of Thomas Wilson.
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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
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The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
"George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson
Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
The following deeds are useful
1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
Okay, better proof about it being the minister.
James Hamilton gives the names of his wife as Elizabeth Stewart in his will. This doesn't rule out another marriage, but I am not sure we can jump to the conclusion of a marriage to an Elizabeth Brown. I have been working to assemble deeds that may be useful in sorting this out. Links are below:

Brown & Wife to Knox #1160
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-M356-G?cat=185720

Hamilton to Brown #13927
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-97SX-R?cat=185720

Wilson to Wilson #17275
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-SSF1?cat=185720

Smith to Brown #30990
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-JJ9R?cat=185720

Conyngham to Brown #56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720

Cuningham to Armstrong #57784

Brown to Lynham #60635
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-FXCT?cat=185720

Kyle to Goff #81597
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-M9Q2-2?cat=185720

Brown to Ferguson #81609
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-97PY-S?i=271&cat=185720

Dwyer to Goff #87766 (shows that Katherine, daugher of Hugh Kyle m. Dennis Dwyer)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-J95V-D?i=198&cat=185720

Brown to Homes #97558
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-7XQL?cat=185720

Brown and Kyle to Hall #106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720

Brown to Brown #110119
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-79QK-6?cat=185720
Rebecca Haninger
2023-10-26 20:23:04 UTC
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Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.
Rebecca Haninger
2023-10-29 00:02:53 UTC
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Here is a deed registered 22 May 1780 in connection to the estate of James Wilson, Jr., son of James Wilson, Sr. and Jane Craighead:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?i=329&cat=185720
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Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.
Jeff Homes
2023-10-29 18:18:41 UTC
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?i=329&cat=185720
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Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.
Memorial #56781 of two deeds dated 1735. 1st - Elizabeth Jorden, 2nd daughter of Gabriel Jorden grants to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead a house on the south side of Lazy Hill in the suburbs of Dublin. 2nd - release Rev Thomas Orr of 1st part; Elizabeth Jorden, widow and Elizabeth Jorden, spinster grant annuity to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead from land bought by Elizabeth Jorden, widow from John Brock and Charles Meares.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-T?cat=185720
Rebecca Haninger
2023-11-05 00:38:23 UTC
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It is tempting to suggest Anne, the wife of Robert Craighead, was Anne Jordan, daughter of Gabriel Jordan. Gabriel did in fact have a daughter named Anne who, sometime after 1735, was married to David Campbell.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?i=329&cat=185720
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Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.
Memorial #56781 of two deeds dated 1735. 1st - Elizabeth Jorden, 2nd daughter of Gabriel Jorden grants to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead a house on the south side of Lazy Hill in the suburbs of Dublin. 2nd - release Rev Thomas Orr of 1st part; Elizabeth Jorden, widow and Elizabeth Jorden, spinster grant annuity to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead from land bought by Elizabeth Jorden, widow from John Brock and Charles Meares.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-T?cat=185720
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