pedigree of William Dethick

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Cristopher Nash

2004-04-06 17:10:58 UTC

Jeffrey Gibson wrote --

Does anyone have any information on the pedigree of William DeThick (b.
1543), the Garter King of Arms?

Thanks for bringing forward this surname. For myself, I'd be
grateful for any information re: Simon Dethick, said to be of North
Elmham, Norf, and fa. with Rose Crowe of Christian Dethick who m. Sir
Thomas Pettus, Sheriff of Norfolk (Mayor of Norwich in 1591), &/or of
'Jone' Dethick, said to be mo. of John Pettus (fa. of Sir Thomas
Pettus above).

Cheers,

Cris
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Janet Ariciu

2004-04-07 11:36:10 UTC

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I miss the first message on the Dethick family. I too am interested in Simon
Dethick family.

This what I have:

Esq Simon Dethick, born Abt.1490 in North Elmham, Norfolk, England; died
1542 in Wormegay, County Suffolk, England. He married Rose Crowe 1526 in
Norfolk, England. Rose Crowe born Abt. 1506 in Norwich, England; died Bef.
1600 in England. She was the daughter of Christopher Crowe and Christian
Unknown.

Children of Simon Dethick and Rose Crowe are:

1. Christian Dethick, born Bet. 1526 - 1542 in Norwich, England; died Abt.
January 25, 1577/78 in Norwich, England; married Sir Thomas Pettus October
29, 1548 in England.

Janet Ariciu

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From: Cristopher Nash [mailto:***@windsong.u-net.com]
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Subject: Re: pedigree of William Dethick

Jeffrey Gibson wrote --

Does anyone have any information on the pedigree of William DeThick (b.
1543), the Garter King of Arms?

Douglas Beahm

2004-04-07 14:57:05 UTC

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Post by Cristopher Nash
Jeffrey Gibson wrote --

Does anyone have any information on the pedigree of William DeThick (b.
1543), the Garter King of Arms?

There will be an article appearing in the Oct-Dec. 2004 issue of "The
Virginia Genealogist" on the ancestry of Philip Pendleton (1654-1721) of
Virginia. This article will discuss all of the known ancestors of Philip
Pendleton, including Simon Dethicke ( - 1543). Primary sources have been
included for most branches of this family.

If you have an immediate interest in Simon Dethicke, contact me privately
and I can provide you with either a copy of my abstract of his will or a
scanned copy.

Jeffrey B. Gibson

2004-04-07 15:25:52 UTC

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Post by Cristopher Nash
Jeffrey Gibson wrote --

Does anyone have any information on the pedigree of William DeThick (b.
1543), the Garter King of Arms?

Is there any connection between William and Siomon?

Jeffrey
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Cristopher Nash

2004-04-08 00:03:19 UTC

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Post by Douglas Beahm
There will be an article appearing in the Oct-Dec. 2004 issue of "The
Virginia Genealogist" on the ancestry of Philip Pendleton (1654-1721) of
Virginia. This article will discuss all of the known ancestors of Philip
Pendleton, including Simon Dethicke ( - 1543). Primary sources have been
included for most branches of this family.

Having unusual personal interest in this line, I'm excited to hear of
the article and greatly appreciate your alert.

Post by Douglas Beahm
If you have an immediate interest in Simon Dethicke, contact me privately
and I can provide you with either a copy of my abstract of his will or a
scanned copy.

I appreciate your kind offer enormously. But actually what I'd give
anything to see is the whole Pendleton article - which I'm afraid
will happen much after its publication - but you're safe, I can't
drum up the temerity to ask that! Since there are few collections
maintaining _The Virginia Genealogist_ here (UK) -- (I'm not sure
even the Soc of Geneals has a consistent run of it) -- without this
notice from you I'd've otherwise been likely to miss it altogether,
at least until a later research trip to the US or some long-hence
'visit' to PERSI! But now thanks to you I'll see what I can do.

The work sounds intriguing. Is it yours?

Gordon Kirkemo wrote -

Post by Douglas Beahm
Because the dates may be a bit outside the medieval time period, I thought
I'd share this with you directly. My Dethick/Pettus source is: "America the
Beautiful-A Family History" by Dr. J. Phillip London. Dr. London identifies
Rose Beatrice as the wife and widow of Simon Dethick, and as the third wife
of John Pettus. He also seems to suggest that the maiden of Rose Beatrice
might be Duckett, although he seems uncertain ("?").

Thanks for this, Gordon.

Post by Douglas Beahm
What evidence have you found that establishes her name as Crowe?

No 'evidence' whatsoever - only online hearsay (which is why my
phrase 'said to be'!)

Thanks, too, Janet Ariciu, for your material, which I suspect (if not
fear) comes from the same source. (I'm thinking of e.g. Josephine
Lindsay Bass & Becky Bass Bonner's nicely energetic but not very
persuasive stuff on
<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/>.)

Cris
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Douglas Beahm

2004-04-08 11:17:15 UTC

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Douglas Beahm

2004-04-16 00:57:38 UTC

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Several people have contacted me privately about some of the families that
intermarried with the Pendleton family in Virginia. For those interested in these
lines, I suggest that you read the following post

http://genforum.genealogy.com/pendleton/messages/1357.html

and

"John Gregory of Old Rappahannock Co., Va."
"The Virginia Genealogist", October-December 2003, pp. 243-256

This material dispels many of the family traditions that have appeared in books for
the last hundred years and that continues to circulate in internet databases today.

Cristopher Nash

2004-04-17 23:01:06 UTC

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I wrote --

Post by Douglas Beahm
Several people have contacted me privately about some of the families that
intermarried with the Pendleton family in Virginia. For those
interested in these lines, I suggest that you read the following
post
http://genforum.genealogy.com/pendleton/messages/1357.html
and
"John Gregory of Old Rappahannock Co., Va."
"The Virginia Genealogist", October-December 2003, pp. 243-256

Sorry - I meant (as you can see) 'Pendleton intermarriages via John Pendleton'.

Cris
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