Agincourt participants

[Leo van de Pas via]

It is almost the 600th anniversary of this battle. It must have been gruesome. When soldiers were wounded, the opposite site looked at who they were and if they were ransomable (is there such a word?) they lived, if not they were killed.

However it was an important victory for the English. I understand, the present day Lord Cobham is in charge of the celebrations, his ancestor, Lord Cobham, was in charge of one wing of the English army.

I have tried to bring as many names as possible of people in Genealogics who were at Agincourt together, it may help. http://www.genealogics.org On the righthand side is a reference to Agincourt.

Perhaps Agincourt should become a new subject, like Magna Carta sureties, Plantagenet Ancestry and so on. Perhaps this is too much to expect as there were so many participants on both sides.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

[Hal Bradley via]

Leo,

Others in your database who were at Agincourt:

John Savage (d. 1450)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109170&tree=LEO

Edmund Ferrers, Lord Ferrers (d. 1435)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177559&tree=LEO

Richard Harington (d. 1462)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302981&tree=LEO

John Stanley (d. 1437)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107949&tree=LEO

William Stanley (d. bef 1428)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00384751&tree=LEO

Edward Stradling (d. 1453)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028595&tree=LEO

Cheers,

Hal Bradley


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It is almost the 600th anniversary of this battle. It must have been
gruesome. When soldiers were wounded, the opposite site looked at who they
were and if they were ransomable (is there such a word?) they lived, if not
they were killed.

However it was an important victory for the English. I understand, the
present day Lord Cobham is in charge of the celebrations, his ancestor, Lord
Cobham, was in charge of one wing of the English army.

I have tried to bring as many names as possible of people in Genealogics who
were at Agincourt together, it may help. http://www.genealogics.org On the
righthand side is a reference to Agincourt.

Perhaps Agincourt should become a new subject, like Magna Carta sureties,
Plantagenet Ancestry and so on. Perhaps this is too much to expect as there
were so many participants on both sides.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

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Ralph Shirley came close. Traveled to France in 1415, but fell ill and returned to England just two weeks before Agincourt.

[taf]

Post by Hal Bradley via
William Stanley (d. bef 1428)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00384751&tree=LEO

Forgot about him. That means immigrant Oliver Manwaring had 4 himself.

taf

[mk via]

some more notes re Agincourt

Richard Wydeville, Henry VIII's great great grandfather, survived also. He
is said to have been charged with carrying the king's talisman and keeping
it in his sight throughout the battle. Not sure if he had been knighted
then or not. Also an ancestor of Percy Bysshe Shelley, Algernon Swinburne,
and Lewis Carroll (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson).

Sir William Haute survived the battle, though it's not so certain that his
father, Sir Nicholas did. They were not in the same retinue, Sir Nicholas
being with Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester. It's known he died in 1415, but
perhaps he never made it to the battle. I don't see his name in the lists.
He was mustered 16 July, but not mentioned thereafter apparently.

It turns out Sir Edward Burnell died at Harfleur of some infectious
disease, so he never made it to the battle

Ralph Bostock was knighted at Agincourt, but it's not certain he came home
again. He is an ancestor of Colin Powell.

http://tinyurl.com/ph5nfkx
Sir William Butler, who died at Harfleur, is here said to have been
returning from the battle. So maybe he was a participant after all?

Sir John Savage is also ancestor of Alfred Lord Tennyson and Lord Byron

Sir Walter Hungerford is also an ancestor of poets Percy Bysshe Shelley,
Alfred Lord Tennyson, Lord Byron, and Thomas Lovell Beddoes as well as
novelist Maria Edgeworth

the above are all ancestors of mine, the ones below are connections of
those you already have (except maybe Vaughn, think I did not see him on
your list)


Sir Roger Vaughan, killed at the battle, was an ancestor of Jane Austin

Sir Richard Kyghley killed at Agincourt with four of his archers (named
here)
http://tinyurl.com/nl799qa

Sir Thomas Camoys was also an ancestor of Percy Bysshe Shelley

Sir Leonard Hastings, also an ancestor of Percy Bysshe Shelley

Sir David Gam also an ancestor of Percy Bysshe Shelley and Alfred Lord
Tennyson


mk

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William Stanley (d. bef 1428)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00384751&tree=LEO

Forgot about him. That means immigrant Oliver Manwaring had 4 himself.
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William Stanley (d. bef 1428)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00384751&tree=LEO

Forgot about him. That means immigrant Oliver Manwaring had 4 himself.
taf

Whether or not he actually participated at Agincourt, Sir John Bromley of Badington, Cheshire (another Oliver Manwaring ancestor) was honored for his heroics in France.

HS

Collections for A History of Staffordshire, Vol. II, Part 2, p. 107

[Brad Dubbs]

From the St Georges Windsor site...a list of 26 Garter Knights who where at Agincourt. Only 11 of their stall plates survive.

http://www.stgeorges-windsor.org/archives/archive-features/image-of-the-month/title1/the-knights-of-the-garter-at-agincourt.html

Post by Leo van de Pas via
It is almost the 600th anniversary of this battle. It must have been gruesome. When soldiers were wounded, the opposite site looked at who they were and if they were ransomable (is there such a word?) they lived, if not they were killed.
However it was an important victory for the English. I understand, the present day Lord Cobham is in charge of the celebrations, his ancestor, Lord Cobham, was in charge of one wing of the English army.
I have tried to bring as many names as possible of people in Genealogics who were at Agincourt together, it may help. http://www.genealogics.org On the righthand side is a reference to Agincourt.
Perhaps Agincourt should become a new subject, like Magna Carta sureties, Plantagenet Ancestry and so on. Perhaps this is too much to expect as there were so many participants on both sides.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia