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Evidence of Philippa of Luxembourg's parentage
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Steve Barnhoorn
2020-07-04 14:14:21 UTC
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I am looking for solid evidence (charters, cartularies, chronicle) showing Philippa of Luxembourg (1252 – 6 April 1311) was the daughter of Count Henry V of Luxembourg (or Henry V the Blondell) (1216 – 24 December 1281)and his wife, Marguerite of Bar ((1220–1275), and spouse of Jean (Avesnes) van Avesnes.

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.
Peter Stewart
2020-07-05 04:35:26 UTC
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I am looking for solid evidence (charters, cartularies, chronicle) showing Philippa of Luxembourg (1252 – 6 April 1311) was the daughter of Count Henry V of Luxembourg (or Henry V the Blondell) (1216 – 24 December 1281)and his wife, Marguerite of Bar ((1220–1275), and spouse of Jean (Avesnes) van Avesnes.
Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.
I'm not sure that a charter can be found explicitly stating her
parentage, but her father's brother Gerard of Durbuy called her his dear
niece ("notre chiere niece et dame Philippe comtesse de Haynaut") in a
charter dated 1 July 1296, see
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=VV1OAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA494-IA1.

There are several charters in which she is described (or described
herself) as wife of Jean d'Avesnes, see for instance a charter dated
January 1289 (1290 new style) here:
https://archive.org/details/cartulairedelabb00cyso/page/250/mode/2up,
and dated March 1294 here:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=6C5OAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA435.

The marble tomb of Jean and Philippa in Valenciennes carried her epitaph
stating: "Chy gist Phelippe le Senée,/ Qui jadis pu extraicte et née /
de Luzembourg, comme on recorde", see
https://archive.org/details/biographienation17acad/page/178/mode/2up.

The effigies of the couple were reportedly surrounded by plaques for 30
relatives, 26 of his and four of hers.

You may find more sources to your purpose cited in Michel Marge's
'Luxemburg und Avesnes: Territorialpolitik und Ritterideal (1250-1350)',
in *Regionen Europas - Europa der Regionen: Festschrift für Kurt-Ulrich
Jäschke zum 65. Geburtstag* (2003) 189-206. I haven't seen this.

Peter Stewart
Peter Stewart
2020-07-05 07:08:58 UTC
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Post by Steve Barnhoorn
I am looking for solid evidence (charters, cartularies, chronicle) showing Philippa of Luxembourg (1252 – 6 April 1311) was the daughter of Count Henry V of Luxembourg (or Henry V the Blondell) (1216 – 24 December 1281)and his wife, Marguerite of Bar ((1220–1275), and spouse of Jean (Avesnes) van Avesnes.
On 26 October 1263 Pope Urban IV gave a dispensation for the proposed
consanguineous marriage between the namesake first cousin of Jean
d'Avesnes (son of his paternal uncle Balduin of Beaumont) with a
daughter of Henri V of Luxembourg, see p. 345 no. 725 here:
https://archive.org/details/lesregistresdurb02cath/page/344/mode/2up.

This marriage did not eventuate, but the intended bride was perhaps
Philippa since her sister Isabelle was married soon afterwards to the
half-blood paternal uncle of both Jeans, Guy of Dampierre, count of
Flanders.

By the way, Philippa is said to have been depicted on her tomb with the
arms of Luxemburg and Bar on her robe.

Peter Stewart
Peter Stewart
2020-07-05 10:37:31 UTC
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Post by Steve Barnhoorn
I am looking for solid evidence (charters, cartularies, chronicle) showing Philippa of Luxembourg (1252 – 6 April 1311) was the daughter of Count Henry V of Luxembourg (or Henry V the Blondell) (1216 – 24 December 1281)and his wife, Marguerite of Bar ((1220–1275), and spouse of Jean (Avesnes) van Avesnes.
Some 14th-century chronicles mention the family of the wife of Jean
d'Avesnes:

Johannes de Beke said she was a count of Luxemburg's daughter ("Iohannes
comes Hannoniensis ... habens in uxorem Philippam filiam comitis
Lucemburgie"), see
http://resources.huygens.knaw.nl/retroboeken/beke/#page=314.

Better than this, Johannes de Lange of Ypres, abbot of Saint-Bertin,
said (although in a somewhat confused passage) that she was sister to
Henri V of Luxemburg's eldest daughter Isabelle, whose husband Guy de
Dampierre of Flanders requested their help to avoid strife ("Henricus
comes Lucemburgensis ... habuitque filias duas, comitissam Flandrensem
et comitissam Hannoniensem ... Guido comes Flandrie, ut hoc discrimen
imminentis belli cedare posset, loqutus est cum duabus sororibus
antedictis, comitissa videlicet Flandrie, uxore sua, et comitissa
Hannonie").

Documents of Henri V himself in French and Latin, written in May 1264,
indicate that Guy of Flanders was to marry his daughter Isabelle
("Guion, conte de Flandres ... doit penre a feme par loial mariage
damoisele Ysabele ma fille" and "Guidonem, comitem Flandrie ... debet
accipere in uxorem legitimam Ysabellam filiam meam").

Peter Stewart

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