Post by Wibs
With all the problems that the soc.genealogy.medieval group has, with
unmoderated posts from the sex-obsessed, the religio-fantasists, and
others that are not interested in serious medieval genealogy and
allied subjects (for example, relevant heraldry, DNA discussions,
medieval terms, medieval Latin, etc), might I humbly suggest that this
group moves to another host, other than Google Groups, where posts can
undergo, at least, cursory moderation before appearing?
Google Groups have shown little or no interest in the problems that we face.
AIUI the way usenet works is that there is no single host. It's a peer
to peer system. For instance I don't go near Google Groups to get a
feed; I get it from my ISP (Plusnet as it happens although in the past
I've also got it from other ISPs). I think they in turn buy the service
from another provider, GigaNews. I've also, in the past, used other
feeds, Eternal September and Individual.net.
These services exchange messages with each other and Google Groups is
simply one of them. That particular service started out as an archive,
DejaNews with no facility for posting although they added it before
being bought by Google. I'm not sure ow possible t would be for the
rest of the peer group to simply cut Google out. Similar problems
affected soc.genealogy.britain. I think pressure was brought on Google
and they seem to have simply dropped the group entirely. Yes, the
nuisance spammers have gone. So have all the old posts that Deja and
Google had been archiving. That's not a price worth paying.
I don't use email or a web interface to follow the group; I use a
specialist newsgroup client. It's actually the same client I use for
email. In effect it's Mozilla Thunderbird (in fact it's the version
bundled into the descendant of the old Netscape Suite).
All I have to do with a thread from the spammers or one of the
occasional loonies is hide the thread and all the existing posts and all
the later ones disappear. It's simple to do, just select the thread in
the thread list and type k (for kill) and make sure that the
View>Threads>Ignored threads box is unticked, which it is by default.
As the spammers multiple posts seem to be on a few threads with few
additional ones added that's not much of a burden and it's one that
avoids the downside of losing the Google archive.
Another approach is to subscribe to a service that does offer some
filtering. Other members might be able to make recommendations.
The main point, however, is that there are ways of handling the
situation that don't lose the archive and don't tie up someone's time
moderating the group.
My two pennorth, for what it's worth.
double-Dutch to me. However, as far as I understand it I access SGM
posts in the same way you do, via Usenet and Mozilla Thunderbird. The
they no longer obtrude in bold letters. I did try typing "k" for kill
posts as read.