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Relationship of Sara Vabadun(e) to Adam Bavant
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donna.hart...@gmail.com
2021-06-17 19:46:36 UTC
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According to CP (Complete Peerage II:33 (2000)), the parents of Adam Bavant (Bavent) who married Alice Scudamore, daughter of Peter Scudamore and died in 1292, and was the father of Roger, were Adam Bavent and Alice de Wiston, daughter of William de Wiston.
“Adam de Bavent, of Cocking, Heene, Wiston, &c., Sussex, son and heir of Adam de B., by Alice, dau. and heir of William de Wisteneston or Wiston, of Wiston & Heene. He was sum. to attend the King at Shrewsbury 28 Jun 1283, by writ directed 'Ade de Bavent'. He had a grant of free warren in his demesne lands in Sussex, Surrey, Kent, and Suffolk, 1 Aug 1285. He m. Alice, dau. and heir of Piers d'Escudamore, of Upton-, Norton-, and Fifield-Scudamore, Wilts. He d. about 11 Nov 1292. His widow d. shortly before 14 Oct 1300.

However the following is from The Surrey Archeological Collections, Vol. 1 published by the Surrey Archeological Society, 1858:
“And the treasurers and barons answered that having examined the rolls and memoranda of the Exchequer, it was found that one Richard Vabadune, whose daughter and heir, Sarra de Vabadune by name, was married to Roger de Bavent, father of the said Adam (of which Roger and Sarra the said Adam de Bavent was son and heir), held one fee of the king in capite ut de corona in Hachesham, in the county of Surrey, and the said custody therefore belonged to the king, the tenure by which Adam held of William de Say or of any other person in whatever manner not withstanding.
This can be found at: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Surrey_Archaeological_Collections/HD8GAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Roger+Bavent+,+Justice&pg=PA129&printsec=frontcover on page 128.

In the IPM of Adam Bavent, taken on 5 Jan. 21 Edw. I in Suffolk, it is written that “
“His manor in the hamlet of Watesford (extent given), held of Sir Roger son of Albert [alias *Osbert], from which 63s. 8 1/2d. ought to be paid yearly.
Memorandum. That it is found in a certain book of the exchequer that Richard Vabadun held of the king 3 knights’ fees: and he was ancestor of Adam de Bavent on his mother’s side, and his lands &c. descended to the said Adam through his mother’s death.”
Adam Bavant’s IPM can be found here: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp54-67

So who were the parents of Adam de Bavent? Any explanations are welcome.

Donna
Will Johnson
2021-06-24 05:23:09 UTC
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According to CP (Complete Peerage II:33 (2000)), the parents of Adam Bavant (Bavent) who married Alice Scudamore, daughter of Peter Scudamore and died in 1292, and was the father of Roger, were Adam Bavent and Alice de Wiston, daughter of William de Wiston.
“Adam de Bavent, of Cocking, Heene, Wiston, &c., Sussex, son and heir of Adam de B., by Alice, dau. and heir of William de Wisteneston or Wiston, of Wiston & Heene. He was sum. to attend the King at Shrewsbury 28 Jun 1283, by writ directed 'Ade de Bavent'. He had a grant of free warren in his demesne lands in Sussex, Surrey, Kent, and Suffolk, 1 Aug 1285. He m. Alice, dau. and heir of Piers d'Escudamore, of Upton-, Norton-, and Fifield-Scudamore, Wilts. He d. about 11 Nov 1292. His widow d. shortly before 14 Oct 1300.
“And the treasurers and barons answered that having examined the rolls and memoranda of the Exchequer, it was found that one Richard Vabadune, whose daughter and heir, Sarra de Vabadune by name, was married to Roger de Bavent, father of the said Adam (of which Roger and Sarra the said Adam de Bavent was son and heir), held one fee of the king in capite ut de corona in Hachesham, in the county of Surrey, and the said custody therefore belonged to the king, the tenure by which Adam held of William de Say or of any other person in whatever manner not withstanding.
This can be found at: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Surrey_Archaeological_Collections/HD8GAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Roger+Bavent+,+Justice&pg=PA129&printsec=frontcover on page 128.
In the IPM of Adam Bavent, taken on 5 Jan. 21 Edw. I in Suffolk, it is written that “
“His manor in the hamlet of Watesford (extent given), held of Sir Roger son of Albert [alias *Osbert], from which 63s. 8 1/2d. ought to be paid yearly.
Memorandum. That it is found in a certain book of the exchequer that Richard Vabadun held of the king 3 knights’ fees: and he was ancestor of Adam de Bavent on his mother’s side, and his lands &c. descended to the said Adam through his mother’s death.”
Adam Bavant’s IPM can be found here: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp54-67
So who were the parents of Adam de Bavent? Any explanations are welcome.
Donna
The early Bavant pedigrees are confused and contradictory.

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