Douglas Richardson email@example.com
2005-07-27 07:02:01 UTC
Dear Newsgroup ~
I've posted below four documents which prove that Sir Richard de Lucy's
wife was named Rohese. The documents concern a grant made in 1148/51
by which Sir Richard de Lucy gave 10 shillings annually to the canons
of Holy Trinity, London, for the soul of his wife, Rohese. This grant
was subsequently confirmed by the heirs of Sir Richard's elder son,
Geoffrey de Lucy, and also by Sir Richard's younger son, Godfrey de
Lucy, Bishop of Wincester.
The information below contains additional evidence in support of the
identification of parentage of Sir Richard de Lucy's younger grandson,
Geoffrey de Lucy, found in Complete Peerage under Lucy. In one of the
documents below, Geoffrey's son, Amaury de Lucy, specifically refers to
Sir Richard de Lucy as his great-grandfather. This confirms that
Amaury's father, Geoffrey de Lucy, was a grandchild of Sir Richard de
Lucy as set forth by the editor of Complete Peerage.
John Ravilious earlier posted the evidence that I found which proves
that Rohese de Lucy was the sister of Faramus of Boulogne. For Rohese
of Boulogne's extended ancestry, please see Hal Bradley's great
database at the following web address:
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Document #1: Ancient Deeds, A.2325.
Portion of seal. [Kent]
Grant by Roheisia de Duvr' to the canons of Holy Trinity, London, of
10s. yearly that Richard de Luci her grandfather gave them for the soul
of Roheisia his wife, her grandmother, who is buried in their church,
to be received out of her rent in Niweton [Newington] at the equinox
before Michaelmas, out of the rents first paid. Witnesses: - Oger son
of Oger, Ralph de Adlinges, Michael de Borham, and others (named).
[Reference: Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds in the Public Record
Office 2 (1894): 64].
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Document #2: Ancient Deed, A.2326.
Agreement in the King's Court between P. the prior of Holy Trinity,
London, plaintiff, and Richard de Rivers and Maud his wife,
deforciants, concerning 10s. quit rent which the prior demanded by gift
of Richard de Luci, ancestor of Maud, from their portion in Neweton
[Newington] manor. Richard and Maud, for 40s., acknowledge the said
rent to belong to the said church, to be received yearly at the equinox
before Michaelmas out of the first sums they receive as rent. Monday
the Invention of Holy Cross, 5 Henry III [3 May 1221].
Annexed: (1.) Almaric de Lucy was summoned to answer the prior of Holy
Trinity, London, concerning 110s. arrears of the above rent. By licence
of Court the parties agree, Almaric promising to pay the said rent
yearly in Newton [Newington] manor at Michaelmas, the prior remitting
all arrears except 40s., to be paid half at Midsummer, and half at
Michaelmas next. Extract from Placita de Banco.
(2.) Imperfect copy of the above extract. Easter term, 4 Edward I
(3.) Inspeximus by Almaric de Luci of the following grant of Richard de
Luci his great grandfather: - Certificate of Richard de Lucy to T.
archbishop of Canterbury, Walter bishop of Rochester, and all men of
Kent that he has granted to the canons of Holy Trinity, London, in
frank almoin, 20s. yearly rent from Niweton [Newington] for the soul of
Roheis his wife, who is buried in their church, to be received at the
equinox before Michaelmas out of the first sums for rent he receives
from the aforesaid town. Witnesses: - Matilda Queen of England, Earl
Eustace son of the King. [A.D. 1148-1151]. Almaric confirms the above
grant as to the moiety thereof that Roheisia de Doveria his kinswoman
has granted them. Witnesses: - Sirs Robert son of Roger, Richard de
Tani, John de Scalariis, Richard de Rouecestre, William de
Oddingeseles, and others (named). Seal. [Reference: Descriptive
Catalogue of Ancient Deeds in the Public Record Office 2 (1894): 64].
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Ancient Deed, A.2327. [Kent].
Grant in frank almoin by Matilda de Lucy, late the wife of Richard de
Rivers, to Richard, the prior, and the canons of Holy Trinity, London,
of 10s. yearly rent out of the portion of rent belongiong to her in
Niweton [Newington], which she has paid them hitherto according to the
old grant of Sir Richard de Lucy her grandfather. Witnesses: - Sir
Martin, rector of Meresey church, Sir Philip, rector of Bobingewrd,
Thomas de Ryseburgh, clerk, and others (named).
Endorsed: "Niweton, et memorand. quod dominus Arnaldus Saunge tenet
man' de Trasi."
Annexed: Extract from De Banco Roll. John de Tracy and Marjery his
wife are summoned to answer the prior of Holy Trinity, London,
concerning 110s. arrears of a yearly rent of 10s. they owe him. The
prior gives half a marc for licence to agree, whereupon John and
Marjery acknowledge they owe the prior the said 10s. rent to be paid
yearly in their manor of Neunton [Newington], and the prior remits the
damages except 5 marcs. Hilary, 5 Edward I. . [See De Banco,
Hilary, 5 Edward I., m. 23.]. [Reference: Descriptive Catalogue of
Ancient Deeds in the Public Record Office 2 (1894): 65].
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Document #4: Ancient Deeds, A.10846.
Confirmation by Godfrey de Luci, bishop of Winchester, to the church of
Holy Trinity, London, and the canons regular there, in perpetual alms,
of 20s. rent which his father gave them from his rent in the town of
Niweton [Newington]. [Reference: Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient
Deeds in the Public Record Office 5 (1906): 55].