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Scottish charter interpretation help please
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Peter G. M. Dale
2020-05-28 17:35:34 UTC
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Greetings,

The Historical Manuscripts Commission ‘Report on the Manuscripts of Colonel David Milne Home of Wedderburn Castle’, (1902), p. 18, has the following charter of Archibald, 4th Earl of Douglas, to David Home. Certain of the witnesses thereto are described as “consanguineis nostris dilectis”.

"1. Charter by Archibald, fourth Earl of Douglas, to David of Home, his esquire, of the lands of Wedderburn, undated - but granted at Edinburgh, circa 1413: - ... apud Edinburgh, hiis testibus, Dominis Willelmo de Haya de Louchorwort, Willelmo de Borthwik de eodem, militibus, consanguineis nostris dilectis, Roberto de Hoppringill, Georgio de Rutherfurde, Willelmo de Sancto Claro, scutiferis, cum aliis multis."
('Report on the Manuscripts of Colonel David Milne Home of Wedderburn Castle, N.B.’, (1902), Historical Manuscripts Commission, (1) David Home of Wedderburn, Knight; 1413-1443, p. 18. Web Address - https://archive.org/details/reportonmanuscr01homegoog/page/n23/mode/2up)

Can anyone please tell me:

1. To whom does the description “consanguineis nostris dilectis” apply?
2. Does it mean “dear relatives”?
3. Does it refer to blood relatives?

Many thanks for any assistance!

Cheers,

Pete
pdale (at) peterdale (dot) com
Peter Stewart
2020-05-28 22:18:12 UTC
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Post by Peter G. M. Dale
Greetings,
The Historical Manuscripts Commission ‘Report on the Manuscripts of Colonel David Milne Home of Wedderburn Castle’, (1902), p. 18, has the following charter of Archibald, 4th Earl of Douglas, to David Home. Certain of the witnesses thereto are described as “consanguineis nostris dilectis”.
"1. Charter by Archibald, fourth Earl of Douglas, to David of Home, his esquire, of the lands of Wedderburn, undated - but granted at Edinburgh, circa 1413: - ... apud Edinburgh, hiis testibus, Dominis Willelmo de Haya de Louchorwort, Willelmo de Borthwik de eodem, militibus, consanguineis nostris dilectis, Roberto de Hoppringill, Georgio de Rutherfurde, Willelmo de Sancto Claro, scutiferis, cum aliis multis."
('Report on the Manuscripts of Colonel David Milne Home of Wedderburn Castle, N.B.’, (1902), Historical Manuscripts Commission, (1) David Home of Wedderburn, Knight; 1413-1443, p. 18. Web Address - https://archive.org/details/reportonmanuscr01homegoog/page/n23/mode/2up)
1. To whom does the description “consanguineis nostris dilectis” apply?
To the two knights named before, William Hay and William Borthwick, both
of Lochowort.
Post by Peter G. M. Dale
2. Does it mean “dear relatives”?
Yes, relatives by blood.

Peter Stewart
Peter G. M. Dale
2020-05-28 22:34:27 UTC
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Thank you sir. Much appreciated!

Cheers,

Pete

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