"John Brandon" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Consider the source of those exaggerated statements. I was very angry
> with Paul at the time, as we were supposed to be co-authors on that
> article. I sent him all my information, but he wouldn't share a thing
> of his with me. I had to wait to read the article in proof before I
> saw the first word of his contribution to it. How's that for
At it again? That representation is ENTIRELY false.
I still have all the Mansfield files in storage. During the process of
writing the article, I got responses from you, John, that ranged from 'how
can you insinuate [sic] yourself into MY article' to 'you have done such an
incredible job that my [John Brandon] name should not even be on the
article.' I STILL HAVE THESE EMAILS FROM YOU PRINTED OUT. Note that if you
had never seen anything, how could you have made this latter response?
Your memory is strangely creative when you want to disparage me in public.
The proofs of the article and integration were certainly passed between
three authors, Bob Anderson, myself, and John Brandon, aside from the editor
Jane Fiske (who CERTAINLY would have provided Mr. Brandon with copies of
drafts at his request if he weren't already receiving them). What you
suggest here is entirely untenable. And in comparison, John, how long do
you think it took me to do the masses of original research that resulted in
a high percentage of footnote space in that article and commentary that is
clearly my writing, compared to the total amount of time you spent on some
printed sources? I was not paid for my efforts, and never asked to be. It
was entirely voluntary. How many dozens and dozens of hours do you think I
spent on that material? How many hours do you think I spent checking things
that never took up space in the final article?
John, on more than one occasion, haven't you told me that you purchase books
like RD500 and AR, and then in a matter of days afterwards, when you have
gone through them and they are no longer of any use to you, you throw them
away? I thought that unusual, and it caught me by surprise. Then how do
you remember the details from those books (use the ones at the library)?
The above should suffice to salvage me from the false material posted above,
but I wish people would not have to bring my attention to this type of
stuff. I begin to think too many people who disrupt this forum by making
personal attacks instead of genealogical responses suffer from Narcissistic
Personality Disorder (see below).
I think the following (below) explains why certain individuals on this group
continue to obsess on others they perceive to be a threat to their public
Now STOP THIS, be a benefit to the group, HELP some people, and stop
disrupting the feeling that used to exist on this group (one of helping
others and sharing information in any way that might help others). This
change has caused many to leave and the need for a moderated forum to reign
I have sadly seen this group fall into (because of a very few individuals) a
need to be competitive, mainly because someone has the need to chalk up more
'discoveries' than anyone else (even if these 'discoveries' have been in
print for decades) in order to prove oneself greater than all others
(because such recognotion could never come through the normal route others
take of publishing articles, or recognition from peers).
Get back to pertinent stuff! I certainly am (why does not a certain
individual cajole you into being collegial and making friends, instead of
this abuse?). Continued hypocrisy by certain parties becomes very old and
can be seen through readily despite how many times certain statements are
The following clinical information from the DSM-IV:
***The DIAGNOSTIC and Statistics Manual, Rev IV, lists the following as
descriptive of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: ***
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in
a variety of contexts, as indicated by FIVE (or MORE) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., EXAGGERATES ACHIEVEMENTS
and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, BRILLIANCE,
beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings
needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or
her shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
***CLINICAL FEATURES of Narcissistic Personality Disorder***
Patients with narcissistic personality disorder exaggerate their
achievements and talents, and they are surprised when they do not receive
the recognition they expect.
Their inflated sense of self results in a DEVALUATION OF OTHERS and their
Narcissistic patients only pursue relationships that will benefit them in
These patients feel very entitled, expecting others to meet their needs
immediately, and they can become quite indignant if this does not happen.
These patients are self-absorbed and unable to respond to the needs of
others. Any perception of criticism is poorly tolerated, and these patients
can react with rage.
These patients are very prone to envy anyone who possesses knowledge, skill
or belongings that they do not possess. Much of narcissistic behavior serves
as a DEFENSE AGAINST VERY POOR ESTEEM.
[This last point is important. People with NPD feel they must have a high
profile, but harbor an unwavering belief that they are actually a fraud and
a sham, and somehow this might eventually be discovered]
***EPIDEMIOLOGY of Narcissistic Personality Disorder***
The prevalence of NPD is less than 1% in the general population and up to
16% in clinical populations.
The disorder is more common in men than women.
Studies have shown a steady increase in the incidence of narcissistic
***Differential Diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder***
Histrionic Personality Disorder. Histrionic patients are also attention
seeking, but the attention they seek does not need to be admiring. They are
more highly emotional and seductive compared to patients with NPD.
Borderline Personality Disorder. These patients also tend to idealize and
devalue others, but narcissistic patients lack the unstable identity,
self-destructive behavior, and abandonment fears that characterize
Antisocial Personality Disorder. Interpersonal exploitation, superficial
charm, and lack of empathy can be seen in both antisocial personality
disorder and narcissistic personality disorder. However, antisocial patients
do not require
constant admiration nor do they display the envy seen in narcissistic
patients. A history of criminal behavior is not typical of narcissism.
Personality Change Due to a General Medical Condition and Substance-Related
Disorder. All symptoms are temporally related to medication, drugs or a
Treatment of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Psychotherapy is the treatment of choice, but the therapeutic relationship
can be difficult since envy often becomes an issue.
Coexisting substance abuse may complicate treatment.
Depression frequently coexists with NPD; therefore, antidepressants are
for adjunctive therapy
[from http://www.ccspublishing.com/j_psych/Narciss.htm and other sources]