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Awhile back there was some discussion regarding the accuracy of various secondary sources for research, realizing nothing is perfect I have compiled a list of some sources and wonder which might be considered the best. On a scale of one to ten I would greatly appreciate what you all would rate them. Other suggestions welcomed. Thanks.

COMPILED GENEALOGIES:
_____, The Norman people and their existing descendants in the British dominions and the United Sates of America, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1975.

Albany, Prince Michael of, The Forgotten monarchy of Scotland. The true story of the Royal House of Stewart and the hidden lineage of the kings and queens of Scotland, Barnes & Noble, 2000.

Anselme de Ste-Marie, Père [alias Pierre de Guibours, 1625-1694].  Histoire généalogique et chronologique de la Maison royale de France, des pairs, grands officiers de la Couronne et de la Maison du roy et des anciens barons du royaume. . . . 9 vols.   Continued by M. Du Fourny. 3rd ed., reviewed, corrected, and augmented by P. Ange et du P. Simplicien, Augustins Dechausses. Paris, 1723-1733. Reprint Ed. Paris, Editions du Palais royal; New York and London, Johnson Reprint Corporation, 1967. 

Ashe, Geoffrey, Kings and queens of early Britian, Academy Chicago Publishers, repr. 1990.

Ashley, Mike. British kings & queens. New York: Barnes & Noble, 2000.

Aubert de la Che[s]naye-Desbois, François-Alexandre, et Jacques Badier.   Dictionnaire de la noblesse, contenant les généalogies, l'histoire et la chronologie des familles nobles de France.  3rd ed. 19 vols. Paris: Schlesinger, 1863-1876. Reprint ed. 10 vols. Paris: Berger-Levrault, 1980.  (some available on Google books
Vol. 1: Aba-Aud, Abadie-Audet Vol. 11: Jab-Lev, Jablonowski-Levezou
Vol. 2: Aud-Ber, Audibert-Bernardon Vol. 12: Lev-Mal, Levis-Malesset
Vol. 3: Ber-Bra, Bernardy-Brancher Vol. 13: Mal-Mon, Malestroit-Montagnac
Vol. 4: Bra-Cha, Brancion-Chabot Vol. 14: Mon-Nob, Montagny-Noblet
Vol. 5: Cha-Coe, Chabot-Coetmen Vol. 15: Nob-Poi, Noblet-Poisson
Vol. 6: Coe-Dou, Coetquen-Douhet Vol. 16: Poi-Rev, Poisson-Reviers
Vol. 7: Dou-Fev, Doujat-Fèvre Vol. 17: Rev-Rym, Révilliasc-Rym
Vol. 8: Fev-Gar, Fèvre-Garravet Vol. 18: Saa-Til, Saarbruck-Tilly
Vol. 9: Gar-Gue, Garreau-Guenant Vol. 19: Til-Zur, Tilly-Zur-Lauben
Vol. 10: Gue-Iza, Guénégaud-Izarn

Barrau, Hyppolite de, Documens Historiques, Genealogiques sur les Familles et les Hommes Remarquables du Rouergue dans le Temps Anciens et Modernes.

v.1 (1853)
v.2 (1854)
v.3 (1857)

Bingham, Caroline. The Kings & queens of Scotland. New York: Dorset Press, repr. 1985.

Bold, Alan, Scotland’s Kings & Queens, (The Pitkin Guide), Pitkin Pub., 2010

Boyer, Carl III, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans, author, 2001.

Boyer, Carl III, Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans, author, 2004.

Brooke, Christopher, The Saxon and Norman kings, 1978.

Brooke-Little, John. Knights of the middle ages. London: Hugh Evelyn. Ltd. 1966.

Burke, John, A Genealogical and heraldic history of the extinct and dormant baronetcies of England, Ireland, & Scotland, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1977.

Castries, Duc de, (Anne Dobell, trans.), The Lives of the kings and queens of France, Alfred A. Knopf, 1979.

Chaix d'Est-Ange, Gustave.  Dictionnaire des familles françaises anciennes ou notables à la fin du XIXe siècle.   20 vols.  Évreux: C. Hérissey, 1903-1929.

Chambers, James. The Norman Kings. London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1981.
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Courcelles, Jean-Baptiste[-Pierre Julien], Chevalier de. Histoire généalogies et héraldique des pairs de France, des grands dignitaires de la couronne, des principales familles nobles du royaume et des maisons princières de l'Europe. 12 vols. Paris, 1822-1833. I have vls. 2,5-12

Courcelles, Jean-Baptiste[-Pierre Julien], Dictionnaire universal de la noblesse de France.

Crofton, Ian, The Kings and queens of England, Quercus, London, 2006.

Donaldson, Gordon. Scottish kings. New York: Barnes & Noble, repr. 1992.

Faris, David, Plantagenet ancestry of seventeenth-century colonists, 1st ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., 1996.

Gailliard, J., Bruges et le Franc ou leur noblesse, avec des donnees historiques et genealogiques sur chaque famille, Bruges, 1857, (Google book).

Hilliam, David, Kings, Queens, Bones and Bastards: Who’s Who in the English Monarchy from Egbert to Elizabeth II, History Press, 2008.

Howitt, Mary, rev. by Geneva Armstrong, The Queens of England: From the Norman Conquest ot the reign of Victoria, B.S. Wasson & Co.,, 1901

Jordan, David Starr & Sarah Louise Kimball, Your family tree. Being a glance at scientific aspects of genealogy, with a variety of illustrative examples from the lineage of families prominent in America and Great Britain, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1979.
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Klampe, Kelli Rea, Succession of England’s Kings: Saxons to Stuarts, Cavaliers Pub., 2012.

Kraentzler, Ernst-Friedrich, The Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet and Cecily de Neville, a royal study and charting to the beginning, pub. By author, 1st prtg., 1978.

Laine P-Louis, Archives genealogiques et historiques de la noblesse de France, 11 vls. (Google books)

Langston, Aileen Lewers & J. Orton Buck, Jr., Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne’s Descendants, v.2, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1986.

La Tour-Varan, M. de, Etudes Historiques sur le Forez. Armorial et Genealogies de Familles qui se Rattachent a l’Histoire de Saint-Etienne ou aux Chroniques des Chateaux et des Abbayes.

Law, Joy, Fleur de lys; the kings and queens of France, McGraw-Hill Book Co., 1976.

Lewis, Brenda Ralph, Kings and queens of England: a dark history 1066 to the present day. Barnes & Noble, repr. 2005.

Lewis, Brenda Ralph, A Dark History: The Kings & Queens of Europe From Medieval Tyrants to Mad Monarchs, 2008.

Loyd, Lewis C., ed, by Charles Travis Clay & David C. Douglas, The Origins of some Anglo-Norman families, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1980.

Maclagan, Michael & Jiri Louda. Heraldry of the royal families of Europe. New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc., Publishers, 1981

Martine, Roddy. Royal Scotland. Edinburgh: Paul Harris Pub., 1983.
Moréri, Louis. Le Grand dictionnaire historique . . . . 10 vols.   Paris: Les Libraires Associes, 1759.

Moriarty, George Andrews. The Plantagenet ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa. Salt Lake City: Mormon Pioneer Genealogy Society, 1985.

Rey, Emmanuel-Guillaume.  Les familles d'outre-mer de Du Cange.   Repr. ed. New York: Burt Franklin, 1971.
Robertson, Eben William, Scotland under her early kings, a history of the kingdom to the close of the thirteenth century, 2 vls., (Google books)

Ross, Stewart. Monarchs of Scotland. New York: Facts On File, 1990. 

Round, J. Horace, Studies in peerage and family history, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1970.

Smyth, Alfred P., Scandinavian kings in the British Isles, 850-880, Oxford University Press, 1977.

Stokvis, A-M-H-J, Manuel d’histoire, de genealogie et de chronologie de tous les etats du globe, 1888, 3 vls.

Strickland, Agnes, Lives of the Queens of Scotland and English Princesses
v. 1 (1854)
v. 2 (1851)
v. 3 (1852)
v. 4 (1854)
v. 5 (1855)
v. 6 (1857)
v. 7 (1859)

Stuart, Margaret, Scottish family history. A guide to works of reference on the history and genealogy of Scottish families, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1979.

Wagner, Anthony. Pedigree and Progress. London: Phillimore & Co., Ltd., 1975

Weiss, Frederick Lewis, & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before 1700. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. 7th ed., 1993. 8th ed, is out.

Weis, Frederick Lewis, add. & corr. by Walter Lee Shepard, Jr. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215. The barons named in the Magna Charta, 1215 and some of their descendants…, Genealogical Publishing Co., 4th ed. 1991.

Wenzler, Claude, Genealogy of the Kings of France and their wives.

Wood, Ian, The Merovingian kingdoms, 450-751
Hovite
2018-10-25 13:30:26 UTC
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The following are worthless and should be avoided, 0/10:

Albany, Prince Michael of, The Forgotten monarchy of Scotland. The true story of the Royal House of Stewart and the hidden lineage of the kings and queens of Scotland, Barnes & Noble, 2000.

Ashley, Mike. British kings & queens. New York: Barnes & Noble, 2000.

Stokvis, A-M-H-J, Manuel d’histoire, de genealogie et de chronologie de tous les etats du globe, 1888, 3 vls.

These are reliable, 10/10:

Round, J. Horace, Studies in peerage and family history, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1970.

Smyth, Alfred P., Scandinavian kings in the British Isles, 850-880, Oxford University Press, 1977.

Wagner, Anthony. Pedigree and Progress. London: Phillimore & Co., Ltd., 1975
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2018-10-25 13:48:40 UTC
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Albany, Prince Michael of, The Forgotten monarchy of Scotland. The true story of the Royal House of Stewart and the hidden lineage of the kings and queens of Scotland, Barnes & Noble, 2000.
Ashley, Mike. British kings & queens. New York: Barnes & Noble, 2000.
Stokvis, A-M-H-J, Manuel d’histoire, de genealogie et de chronologie de tous les etats du globe, 1888, 3 vls.
Round, J. Horace, Studies in peerage and family history, Genealogical Publishing Co., repr. 1970.
Smyth, Alfred P., Scandinavian kings in the British Isles, 850-880, Oxford University Press, 1977.
Wagner, Anthony. Pedigree and Progress. London: Phillimore & Co., Ltd., 1975
Thank you, I greatly appreciate your response.
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2018-10-25 13:45:40 UTC
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Awhile back there was some discussion regarding the accuracy of various secondary sources for research, realizing nothing is perfect I have compiled a list of some sources and wonder which might be considered the best. On a scale of one to ten I would greatly appreciate what you all would rate them. Other suggestions welcomed. Thanks.
Weiss, Frederick Lewis, & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before 1700. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. 7th ed., 1993. 8th ed, is out.
Weis, Frederick Lewis, add. & corr. by Walter Lee Shepard, Jr. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215. The barons named in the Magna Charta, 1215 and some of their descendants…, Genealogical Publishing Co., 4th ed. 1991.
For these types of compilation books, Douglas Richardson's "Royal Ancestry" is superior to both, and especially the latter of which his work is basically an extension of with more recent scholarship.
--JC
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2018-10-25 13:47:50 UTC
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Awhile back there was some discussion regarding the accuracy of various secondary sources for research, realizing nothing is perfect I have compiled a list of some sources and wonder which might be considered the best. On a scale of one to ten I would greatly appreciate what you all would rate them. Other suggestions welcomed. Thanks.
Weiss, Frederick Lewis, & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before 1700. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. 7th ed., 1993. 8th ed, is out.
Weis, Frederick Lewis, add. & corr. by Walter Lee Shepard, Jr. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215. The barons named in the Magna Charta, 1215 and some of their descendants…, Genealogical Publishing Co., 4th ed. 1991.
For these types of compilation books, Douglas Richardson's "Royal Ancestry" is superior to both, and especially the latter of which his work is basically an extension of with more recent scholarship.
--JC
Thank you.
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2018-10-25 19:24:09 UTC
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Weiss, Frederick Lewis, & Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before 1700. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. 7th ed., 1993. 8th ed, is out.
Weis, Frederick Lewis, add. & corr. by Walter Lee Shepard, Jr. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215. The barons named in the Magna Charta, 1215 and some of their descendants…, Genealogical Publishing Co., 4th ed. 1991.
Faris, David, Plantagenet ancestry of seventeenth-century colonists, 1st ed., >Genealogical Publishing Co., 1996.
For these types of compilation books, Douglas Richardson's "Royal Ancestry" is superior to both, and especially the latter of which his work is basically an extension of with more recent scholarship.
--JC
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2018-10-25 14:51:28 UTC
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_____, The Norman people and their existing descendants in the British
dominions and the United Sates of America, Genealogical Publishing Co.,
repr. 1975.
This anonymous 19th century work has a lot of detail, and presents connections on the origin of Norman families that were novel at the time, but gives no indication of where a lot of it comes from and almost all of the novel material has proved impossible to confirm. It seems to have been produced by someone who was combining solid scholarship with wild guessery, and the failure to distinguishing the two makes it impossible for the reader to do likewise.

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2018-10-25 16:51:01 UTC
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Allow me to go further and state that "Prince Michael of Albany" is a notorious and utterly bogus fraud. Nothing he says, about anything, should be considered worth anything whatsoever.

Probably can't make that any more emphatic....

Now if he were to take a couple DNA tests, and publish the results, my opinion might change.
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