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Cuerden/Cuerton/Cureton
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Juan Sardina
2019-12-23 16:46:10 UTC
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Hello,

Reading through notes taken by dr. Thomas Kirk Cureton, and published in Historical Southern Families. Volume XVIII, "Massey Family with Cureton Connections," p.202

we can find a note about one John Cuerden, from Leyland, who is said to have died near Combermore Abbey. The date of his death is not given, but the author mentions him in the same paragraph as one John Massey, who was abbot of Combermere in about 1540. No source for this information is given.

The same article mentions one earlier Henry de Cuerden, of Malbank Hall, with a daughter, Alice, who is said to have married Hamon de Masci, of Dunham, who died in 1567, in about 1543. The author mentions MSS 5528 at the British Museum as the source.

The same article mentions William Curton and Robert Curton, who served under sir John Blount in an expedition to France in the third year of the reign of Henry V. The source is given as another MMS, 24, by John Hunter: Agincourt.

The author also mentions one Robert Cureton, who was a canon at Lilleshall Abbey in 1538, when it was dissolved.

Apparently, the author is under the impression that these Curtons, Cuerden and Curetons represent the same family in Lancashire, Cheshire and Shropshire.

Question: Does anybody recognize these Cuerdens from Lancashire, but apparently found at Cheshire and Shropshire in the first half of the 16th century?

I came across two documents regarding John Cuerton, an English merchant and courier, established at Bilbao since the 1540s. He claimed to be son of another John Cuerton, from a place in Shropshire, apparently from "Yteshall", and grandson of one Alexander de Querton, from Leyland. Separate from his set of papers in Spanish archives, dating from about 1559, there is a very short file at Valladolid, with a letter from the king, allowing the local authorities to present evidence of nobility, as his witnesses were very old men who could not travel in person to provide it. Eventually, the matter appears to have been settled, but I don't know the outcome. He did name representatives in London to carry out the necessary investigation in 1558.

For some unknown reason, the grant of arms was given to him in Chester, and it mentions that the city archives had been researched and evidence found about his family, but unfortunately, the arms and pedigree have been lost. The explanation about the arms does mention a great-grand-father, but no names or places are given. See "Heraldic Documents Exemplification of Arms of John Cuerton, dwelling at Bilbao, in Spain, by William Harvy, Clarenceux." Not dated. [MS. Ashm. 834, I., fol. 49]

Could his line be the one mentioned in relation to the Massey family?

Just curious

J. Sardina
Juan Sardina
2019-12-23 20:31:53 UTC
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Following up on the topic, Dr. Thomas Kirk Cureton conducted extensive research on the Cuertons and Curetons from the 1500s, trying to establish the relationship between the line of Cureton at Grindshill and the line of Keurden at Leyland. Part of the research was published in Historical Southern Families.

In Volume XII, the article "Cureton of Virginia, With Related Families Jones, Heath, Rives, Massey, Baugh, " on pages 151 and 152, brings a description of the coat of arms for one John Cuerden, apparently granted in 1537. They are described as two-headed eagle quartered with Saracen swords. The author suggests this denotes a Crusader origin.

Nothing else is mentioned about this John Cuerden and his family.

Any ideas?

J. Sardina

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