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Ida de Clinton, born Oddingsel
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Nicola Lowe
2017-06-17 18:42:25 UTC
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Dear Douglas Richardson,

First, thanks for a magnificent job in compiling 'Magna Carta Ancestry'. Can you help with a query please? I am looking for the will of Ida de Clinton who died in office as Abbess of Wroxall Abbey in 1325. Your page 514 says she dies testate but I wonder if you could tell me what the source is please and where I might see the will if it still exists. Thank you

Nicola Lowe
John Watson
2017-06-17 21:36:54 UTC
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Post by Nicola Lowe
Dear Douglas Richardson,
First, thanks for a magnificent job in compiling 'Magna Carta Ancestry'. Can you help with a query please? I am looking for the will of Ida de Clinton who died in office as Abbess of Wroxall Abbey in 1325. Your page 514 says she dies testate but I wonder if you could tell me what the source is please and where I might see the will if it still exists. Thank you
Nicola Lowe
Douglas' source if hidden away among the footnotes at the bottom of the page:

Trinity Term, 2 Edward III, 1328, Warwickshire. The executors of the will of Ida late the wife of John de Clynton, sued John Pecche the elder and John Murdak in a plea of debt. Court of Common Pleas: CP 40/274 25d.
Index of Placita de Banco, Part II, Lists and Indexes, 32 (1910), 681.

Since Ida had executors, she must have left a will, but it is very unlikely that it has survived.

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John
Jan Wolfe
2017-06-17 22:20:08 UTC
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 5:36:55 PM UTC-4, John Watson wrote:
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Trinity Term, 2 Edward III, 1328, Warwickshire. The executors of the will of Ida late the wife of John de Clynton, sued John Pecche the elder and John Murdak in a plea of debt. Court of Common Pleas: CP 40/274 25d.
Index of Placita de Banco, Part II, Lists and Indexes, 32 (1910), 681.
Since Ida had executors, she must have left a will, but it is very unlikely that it has survived.
Regards,
John
Here is the image of CP 40/274 25d:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E3/CP40no274/bCP40no274dorses/IMG_0049.htm
Nicola Lowe
2017-06-18 12:45:16 UTC
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Dear Douglas Richardson,
First, thanks for a magnificent job in compiling 'Magna Carta Ancestry'. Can you help with a query please? I am looking for the will of Ida de Clinton who died in office as Abbess of Wroxall Abbey in 1325. Your page 514 says she dies testate but I wonder if you could tell me what the source is please and where I might see the will if it still exists. Thank you
Nicola Lowe
Thank you both very much, most helpful.
Jan Wolfe
2017-06-18 16:03:34 UTC
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Post by Nicola Lowe
Dear Douglas Richardson,
First, thanks for a magnificent job in compiling 'Magna Carta Ancestry'. Can you help with a query please? I am looking for the will of Ida de Clinton who died in office as Abbess of Wroxall Abbey in 1325. Your page 514 says she dies testate but I wonder if you could tell me what the source is please and where I might see the will if it still exists. Thank you
Nicola Lowe
Thank you both very much, most helpful.
In addition to the cited case, the same index lists the following case:

Plaintiff: Thomas de Hastang.
Defendant: The executors of the will of Ida late the wife of John de Clynton of Macstok and John son of John de Clynton.
Subject: Debt.
T. 2 190d (Trinity term, year 2 (of Edward III), folio 190d)

See https://archive.org/stream/indexofplacitade02newy#page/685/mode/1up

An image of this case is here (4th from the top):
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It names the executors of the testament of Ida as John de Clynton, William de Clynton, and Henry del Idle. John the son of John de Clynton is also named as a plaintiff.
Jan Wolfe
2017-06-18 16:07:28 UTC
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Dear Douglas Richardson,
First, thanks for a magnificent job in compiling 'Magna Carta Ancestry'. Can you help with a query please? I am looking for the will of Ida de Clinton who died in office as Abbess of Wroxall Abbey in 1325. Your page 514 says she dies testate but I wonder if you could tell me what the source is please and where I might see the will if it still exists. Thank you
Nicola Lowe
Thank you both very much, most helpful.
(I meant as a defendant.)

In addition to the cited case, the same index lists the following case:

Plaintiff: Thomas de Hastang.
Defendant: The executors of the will of Ida late the wife of John de Clynton of Macstok and John son of John de Clynton.
Subject: Debt.
T. 2 190d (Trinity term, year 2 (of Edward III), folio 190d)

See https://archive.org/stream/indexofplacitade02newy#page/685/mode/1up

An image of this case is here (4th from the top):
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E3/CP40no274/bCP40no274dorses/IMG_0378.JPG

It names the executors of the testament of Ida as John de Clynton, William de Clynton, and Henry del Idle. John the son of John de Clynton is also named as a defendant.
Nicola Lowe
2017-06-19 18:05:42 UTC
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Dear Douglas Richardson,
First, thanks for a magnificent job in compiling 'Magna Carta Ancestry'. Can you help with a query please? I am looking for the will of Ida de Clinton who died in office as Abbess of Wroxall Abbey in 1325. Your page 514 says she dies testate but I wonder if you could tell me what the source is please and where I might see the will if it still exists. Thank you
Nicola Lowe
Thank you both very much, most helpful.
(I meant as a defendant.)
Plaintiff: Thomas de Hastang.
Defendant: The executors of the will of Ida late the wife of John de Clynton of Macstok and John son of John de Clynton.
Subject: Debt.
T. 2 190d (Trinity term, year 2 (of Edward III), folio 190d)
See https://archive.org/stream/indexofplacitade02newy#page/685/mode/1up
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E3/CP40no274/bCP40no274dorses/IMG_0378.JPG
It names the executors of the testament of Ida as John de Clynton, William de Clynton, and Henry del Idle. John the son of John de Clynton is also named as a defendant.
Thank you again, really helpful.

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