Paul Mackenzie
2004-04-30 04:27:15 UTC
My previous post contained lots of formatting errors due to the
transmission, so here it goes again without any formatting.
Hi All
BREWES - COKESEY Connection
I post the following tree for your consideration.
1. Peter de BREWES , Kt b1272 d1312 4th son of William de Brewes d1290, of
Tettebury, GLOUCESTER,
Manyingford WILTSHIRE, Wyvethorp, YORK, Boseham, Chesworth, Seggewick,
Biddleton, SUSSEX,
Bokham, Bromley, Effingham, Imworth SURREY m Agnes Husee
1.1. Thomas de BREWES , Kt b1301d1361 son & hr of Peter m Beatrix
1.1.1 John de BREWES b1339 d1367 sp son & hr of Thomas
1.1.2 Thomas de BREWES, Kt b1352 d1395 next br. & hr.
1.1.2.1 Thomas de BREWES b 1395 d 1395
1.1.2.2 Joan de BREWES b 1392 d 1395
1.1.3 Peter de BREWES b aft1352 d bef 1395 next br.
1.2 John de BREWES, Kt b 1301-1312 d1342 yr. son of Peter d1312 of Lee nr.
Reigate,
Geyburton, Scothorn, Misyn, Herlaston, Upton, Kesceby LINCOLN Wauton,
Hernesheved
SURREY m Margaret Trehampton d1354 (2) Norman de Swynford
1.2.1 John de BREWES b1329 liv 1376 son & hr. Declared an Idiot m (1)
Anne.m(2) Joan Cornubia
1.2.1.1 Margaret de BREWES b 1353 dau and hr m (1) John Pontrell (2) Peter
Nuthill
1.2.2 George de BREWES b1330-42 d1418 sp son of John & ultimate hr. of
Thomas d1395 m Elizabeth
who m (2) Thomas Slyfield
1.2.3 Agnes de BREWES d bef 1418 m Uriah Seynpere
1.2.3.1 Isabella SEYNPERE m Walter Cokesey kt
1.2.3.1.1 Walter COKESEY
1.2.3.1.1 Hugh COKESEY b1403 d1445-46 hr of George de Brewes
1.3 Mary de BREWES, COUNTESS of NORFOLK m (1) Ralph Cobham (2) Thomas
Brotherton
1.4 Peter de BREWES of Wiston (?)
The BREWES - COKESEY Connection is well known (see VCH Surrey pages 83, 336
concerning the descent of Bramley, and Little Bookham),
but it was not entirely clear who was John de BREWES (1.2)
I had collected a substantial amount of references on (1.2.1) John de BREWES
and his supposedly brother (1.2.2) George de BREWES
but was unable to reconcile the descent of the two sets of properties of
Peter (1) and John (1.2) until recently. I was searching the A2A database
and came across some relevant material. It seems that the properties of Lee
and Gay Burton held by John de BREWES (1.2) descended first to
John de BREWES (1.2.1) [CIPM 9:89 CIPM 10:189 CIPM 10:318 CC
1354-1360:472,473 etc] and then to Margaret de BREWES (1.2.1.1) [See
below].
The next mention of Lee and Gay Burton is in 1441 concerning the holdings
of the Cokesley family [See below], presumably Hugh COKESEY . In that same
reference it refers to the properties of Wyvethorp and others, which
descended to Hugh COKESEY from George de BREWES (see VCH Surrey pages
83,336). It thus seems that Hugh COKESEY was the heir of both George de
BREWES and Margaret de BREWES, who probably died before 1395 without an
heir.
Any comments or further material would be welcome.
Paul Mackenzie
Queensland
Australia
REFERENCES
1370
DEEDS Lincolnshire
Quitclaim - date: 12 Sep 1370
Between George Brewes, son of John Brewes, knight, of the one part,
and John Pontrell, and Margaret his wife, of the other part; of all his
rights
in the Manors of Lee and Gateburton, with appurts. in Stowe Beate Marie,
Kesteby, Upton, Marton, and Schosthorn next Nettylham, Lincs.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. SpSt/4/7/13 -
THE SPENCER STANHOPE MANUSCRIPTS
1372?
LEGAL PAPERS- Copy of Plea Roll of the King's Bench
Margaret widow of John Pontrell, knight, sought by assize of
Mort D'Ancestor v. Goscelin de Feriby, Vicar of Gainsborough Church,
John de Aseby, Simon Curtays and William de Waterton of Gainsborough;
re the Manors of Gate Burton and Lee (Lincs.), and 3 messuages, 7 bovates
and 12 acres of meadow, 16 marks, and 14s. 8d. rent, in Stowe beate Marie,
Upton, Kesseby and Scotthorn next Netilham, which John de Malton, chaplain,
and John de Wyngfeld gave John de Breouse and Margar his wife in fee tail,
and were inherited by Margaret widow of John Pontrell, Margaret recovered
seisin.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. SpSt/8/1 - -
THE SPENCER STANHOPE MANUSCRIPTS
1383
Ecclesiastical Papers
Miscellaneous
Letters Patent of Henry Bishop of Norwich - date: 15 Feb 1383
Certifying that an Inquisition had been summoned in a cause between
Peter Nuthill and Margaret his wife (daughter of John Brewes and Anne his
wife),
and George Brewes; about Margaret's inheritance; the jurors swore that
Margaret,
born 30 years earlier was legitimate.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. SpSt/11/4/6/3 -
THE SPENCER STANHOPE MANUSCRIPTS
1441
Coldicote in Alderminister co. Worcs, detached
Cokesey family property in Alderminister co. Worcs. and elsewhere
Manors of Cooksey in Upton Warren, Witley, Caldewell, Timberhanger in
Bromsgrove
and Goldicote in Alderminister and Droitwich co. Worcs.; the manor of Lea
and property in Lee,
Gate Burton and Scothern co. Lincon, the manors of Bidlington in Bramber co.
Sussey,
of Bokeham Pava Little Bookham co. Surrey, of Wyverthorp co. York,
of Eyton in Dovedale Eaton Dovedale in Doverridge co. Derby and
property in Walton-on-Trent co. Derby; manors of Hunningham and Willey co.
Warw.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. U269/T196/8
WARWICKSHIRE AND GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Greville, Cranfield and Sackville families
transmission, so here it goes again without any formatting.
Hi All
BREWES - COKESEY Connection
I post the following tree for your consideration.
1. Peter de BREWES , Kt b1272 d1312 4th son of William de Brewes d1290, of
Tettebury, GLOUCESTER,
Manyingford WILTSHIRE, Wyvethorp, YORK, Boseham, Chesworth, Seggewick,
Biddleton, SUSSEX,
Bokham, Bromley, Effingham, Imworth SURREY m Agnes Husee
1.1. Thomas de BREWES , Kt b1301d1361 son & hr of Peter m Beatrix
1.1.1 John de BREWES b1339 d1367 sp son & hr of Thomas
1.1.2 Thomas de BREWES, Kt b1352 d1395 next br. & hr.
1.1.2.1 Thomas de BREWES b 1395 d 1395
1.1.2.2 Joan de BREWES b 1392 d 1395
1.1.3 Peter de BREWES b aft1352 d bef 1395 next br.
1.2 John de BREWES, Kt b 1301-1312 d1342 yr. son of Peter d1312 of Lee nr.
Reigate,
Geyburton, Scothorn, Misyn, Herlaston, Upton, Kesceby LINCOLN Wauton,
Hernesheved
SURREY m Margaret Trehampton d1354 (2) Norman de Swynford
1.2.1 John de BREWES b1329 liv 1376 son & hr. Declared an Idiot m (1)
Anne.m(2) Joan Cornubia
1.2.1.1 Margaret de BREWES b 1353 dau and hr m (1) John Pontrell (2) Peter
Nuthill
1.2.2 George de BREWES b1330-42 d1418 sp son of John & ultimate hr. of
Thomas d1395 m Elizabeth
who m (2) Thomas Slyfield
1.2.3 Agnes de BREWES d bef 1418 m Uriah Seynpere
1.2.3.1 Isabella SEYNPERE m Walter Cokesey kt
1.2.3.1.1 Walter COKESEY
1.2.3.1.1 Hugh COKESEY b1403 d1445-46 hr of George de Brewes
1.3 Mary de BREWES, COUNTESS of NORFOLK m (1) Ralph Cobham (2) Thomas
Brotherton
1.4 Peter de BREWES of Wiston (?)
The BREWES - COKESEY Connection is well known (see VCH Surrey pages 83, 336
concerning the descent of Bramley, and Little Bookham),
but it was not entirely clear who was John de BREWES (1.2)
I had collected a substantial amount of references on (1.2.1) John de BREWES
and his supposedly brother (1.2.2) George de BREWES
but was unable to reconcile the descent of the two sets of properties of
Peter (1) and John (1.2) until recently. I was searching the A2A database
and came across some relevant material. It seems that the properties of Lee
and Gay Burton held by John de BREWES (1.2) descended first to
John de BREWES (1.2.1) [CIPM 9:89 CIPM 10:189 CIPM 10:318 CC
1354-1360:472,473 etc] and then to Margaret de BREWES (1.2.1.1) [See
below].
The next mention of Lee and Gay Burton is in 1441 concerning the holdings
of the Cokesley family [See below], presumably Hugh COKESEY . In that same
reference it refers to the properties of Wyvethorp and others, which
descended to Hugh COKESEY from George de BREWES (see VCH Surrey pages
83,336). It thus seems that Hugh COKESEY was the heir of both George de
BREWES and Margaret de BREWES, who probably died before 1395 without an
heir.
Any comments or further material would be welcome.
Paul Mackenzie
Queensland
Australia
REFERENCES
1370
DEEDS Lincolnshire
Quitclaim - date: 12 Sep 1370
Between George Brewes, son of John Brewes, knight, of the one part,
and John Pontrell, and Margaret his wife, of the other part; of all his
rights
in the Manors of Lee and Gateburton, with appurts. in Stowe Beate Marie,
Kesteby, Upton, Marton, and Schosthorn next Nettylham, Lincs.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. SpSt/4/7/13 -
THE SPENCER STANHOPE MANUSCRIPTS
1372?
LEGAL PAPERS- Copy of Plea Roll of the King's Bench
Margaret widow of John Pontrell, knight, sought by assize of
Mort D'Ancestor v. Goscelin de Feriby, Vicar of Gainsborough Church,
John de Aseby, Simon Curtays and William de Waterton of Gainsborough;
re the Manors of Gate Burton and Lee (Lincs.), and 3 messuages, 7 bovates
and 12 acres of meadow, 16 marks, and 14s. 8d. rent, in Stowe beate Marie,
Upton, Kesseby and Scotthorn next Netilham, which John de Malton, chaplain,
and John de Wyngfeld gave John de Breouse and Margar his wife in fee tail,
and were inherited by Margaret widow of John Pontrell, Margaret recovered
seisin.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. SpSt/8/1 - -
THE SPENCER STANHOPE MANUSCRIPTS
1383
Ecclesiastical Papers
Miscellaneous
Letters Patent of Henry Bishop of Norwich - date: 15 Feb 1383
Certifying that an Inquisition had been summoned in a cause between
Peter Nuthill and Margaret his wife (daughter of John Brewes and Anne his
wife),
and George Brewes; about Margaret's inheritance; the jurors swore that
Margaret,
born 30 years earlier was legitimate.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. SpSt/11/4/6/3 -
THE SPENCER STANHOPE MANUSCRIPTS
1441
Coldicote in Alderminister co. Worcs, detached
Cokesey family property in Alderminister co. Worcs. and elsewhere
Manors of Cooksey in Upton Warren, Witley, Caldewell, Timberhanger in
Bromsgrove
and Goldicote in Alderminister and Droitwich co. Worcs.; the manor of Lea
and property in Lee,
Gate Burton and Scothern co. Lincon, the manors of Bidlington in Bramber co.
Sussey,
of Bokeham Pava Little Bookham co. Surrey, of Wyverthorp co. York,
of Eyton in Dovedale Eaton Dovedale in Doverridge co. Derby and
property in Walton-on-Trent co. Derby; manors of Hunningham and Willey co.
Warw.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search
ref. U269/T196/8
WARWICKSHIRE AND GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Greville, Cranfield and Sackville families