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Robert Hicks/Hickes of the _Fortune_
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r***@gmail.com
2017-08-02 18:40:21 UTC
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In the book SIGNERS OF THE MAYFLOWER COMPACT, by Annie Arnoux
Haxtun, 1897-1899, reprinted 1968, page 104, there is a pedigree of the
colonist Robert Hickes (who came to Massachusetts on the _Fortune_ in
1621) tracing him back to a SIR ELLIS HICKS who was supposedly knighted
on the battlefield of Poitiers by Edward the Black Prince. She claims to
be taking this information from the "Barton Genealogy," pages 189-90,
whatever that is.
The size of it is this--that Robert Hicks belonged to the same
family from which came SIR BAPTIST HICKS, created 5 May 1628 Baron Hicks of
Ilmington, co. Warwick, and Viscount Campden, as well as the Baronets
Hicks (later Hicks-Beach). [See Cokayne's _Complete Baronetage_,
microprint edition 1983, pp.125-127,150-151]
Here is the reputed relationship of Robert Hicks to the
Sir Ellis Hicks
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John Hicks
d.1492
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Thomas Hicks ROBERT HICKS
d.1565 of St. Pancras Lane,
md.Margaret Atwood Cheapside, London, Mercer.
! md.JULIA ARTHUR
! !
!-----------------------! !-----------------------!
John Hicks Baptist Hicks SIR MICHAEL SIR BAPTIST
b.c.1526 HICKES HICKES
md.Mary Everard of Beverston 1st. Viscount
! Castle, co. Campden
! Gloucester. d.20/28 Oct. 1629
! d.15 Aug.1612 !
! ! !
!-----------------------! ! !
Baptist Hicks James Hicks WILIAM HICKS {2 DAUS.}
d. unmd. md.Phoebe Baronet of
! Beverston Castle
! d.9 Oct. 1680
!
!--------------------------------------------------!
{3 daus.} John Ephraim *Robert* Samuel Thomas James
Hicks Hicks *Hicks* Hicks Hicks Hicks
d. y. b.1580
The chronology of this pedigree seems really bad. For example, you
will notice that Robert is said to have been born a whole century before
the death of William Hicks, reputed second cousin of Robert's reputed
father James. Furthermore, on the same page that the above pedigree appears,
Haxtun quotes another authority which says that Robert Hicks was the son of
JOHN Hicks, not James. Which is right? Is it known for certain one way
or the other?
Concerning the abovenamed sons of James and Phoebe Hicks, Haxtun
states that Samuel Hicks has two sons, named TIMOTHY and RICHARD--these
two, she said, emigrated New England. [Where??]. Samuel's brother Thomas
was a linen draper of London who followed his brother Robert to New
England. Finally, the youngest named son, James, was a clerk in the
London warehouse of his 'cousin' Sir Baptist Hicks (presumably the 1st.
Viscount Campden).
Is any of this true, or is it some of that typical genealogical
bullshit from the nineteenth century?
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There is one other notice which seems to concern this family.
This comes from "English Origins of New England Families," second series,
Henry Miners "married one Henreta Hicks, . . . daughter to Edward
Hicks of Glocester, of whom, as appears by the paling of their armes, are
the Hicks of Beverston Castle in Glocester descended; . . . ." Later
this quoted manuscript describes the Hicks arms as "gu. a fesse wavy,
between three fleurs-de-lis or." Chronologically it would seem to me that
this Edward would be in the generation immediately after Sir Ellis Hicks.
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Does anyone know anymore about the Hickses of Beverston Castle, and/or
the ancestry of the colonist Robert Hicks (of whom I am a descendant)?
Jared Olar
University Court West #127
Springfield, IL 62703-5400
My grandmother's father was a Hicks. Do you need help with the geniology of the Hicks? Because everything you have said is write. email me: ***@eagles.usi.edu
wjhonson
2017-08-02 19:11:50 UTC
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Yes it's muddled. See

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/middx-county-records/vol4/pp329-349
wjhonson
2017-08-02 20:30:02 UTC
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There is a question in my mind about whether a person called Ellis Hicks Knt ever even existed at all.

But there is a source, however unreliable

https://books.google.com/books?id=FM8UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA2685#v=onepage&q&f=false
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